You called?

 

I think this soup indicates the scum team doesn't know what they're doing, which kind of eliminates a lot of people.

 

Always a good night when nobody dies

 

Have a thing I did while procrastinating real life stuff today. It's not incredibly useful (less insight than I was hoping for, honestly), but I still did it so ehh.

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Miner interations (not bothering with those that have to do with me, Snow, or Q, except to say he pushed me and townread them):

Jan: |||+?|
Math: ||-||
Fluff: ||---?-?
Koalas: ||||||
Waco: |||||
RegTurtle: --Ly-?-?|-||
Kai: ||
Jarizok: |||+?
fonti: |||+?|

Key: | neutral, + positive, - negative, Ly Lynch Vote, Lu Lump Vote, x? committed but soft x

Interesting points that I noted while reading:
1) Miner was in full defense mode when the negatives on Fluff began.
2) Miner doesn't give a read on Waco, but had a tendency to be pretty response to any of his questions (don't think he missed any, although I didn't check)

Conclusions:
1) On the reread, Miner was clear scum. Would more or less bet the game on that.
2) His sensitivity to Waco despite never giving a read on him is/was troubling.
3) The Fluff thing started after Miner was flailing. So either that's bussing, or he was grasping for someone else to hang. Don't think he pushed hard enough for the second, but that's a thin ass gut call.
4) He also talked an odd amount with Kalas, but that's resolved today either way (unless our priest is teh deds) so not quibbling over that
5) Pretty neutral on Math despite what was going on in the thread

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And sure, why not.

Lynch Vote: The Waco Kid

 

Hey Typhon, want to tell me what you missed there...

 

I mean.

miner was lolcatting during EoD1.

He scumclaimed in like, seven different ways.

 

Did I miss anything? Think you're going to have to tell me.

 

-hint- there were more than 10 players in the game-
And even just off the top of my head I could remember he talked with the others

 

Koalas is probably town, since the Coven apparently didn't seem to care about Priesthunting.

miner going down first + another Witch getting Lumped = D1 probably would have gone down a lot differently.

 

LOL


Well done for bringing Miner home, all. Especially Regfan. I think a failed Soup means the gamestate is pretty figured out, and definitely confirms Miner was scum.

Also, my last posts that I slipped in before the end of day 1 about pushing back on the Mathblade run (which had basically dissipated by the time they came through, but ah well), weren't meant to agree with Regfan on Math being null. I still think/thought that they were no.2/close 3, which is why they were my Lump vote, I just found the way that wagon developed vs. Miners as being suspicious.

Combined with the night,

Vote Mathblade

Typhon you had something you wanted me to remind you, but I honestly don't remember what it was.


Whilst we need to be very, very, very careful about actual role discussion (like, soup is probably the only way we lose from here), I think identifying whatever led to the soup attempt could be a very useful tell in who is scum. Probably need Jan to chime in there.


Going to be a bit inactive tonight, heading to a friends.

 

Pending other info, here's where I stand:

Jan
Quiddity
Koalas
Snowvon
Jarizok
fontisian
Typhon
his fluffiness
KaiDASH
demon/regfan
MathBlade

 

There's a section at the top saying I ignored me, Q, and Snow. For several reasons which I assumed were obvious.

 

Also yeah, based on what Kai said, this attempting Soup looks bad for Math. And I guess Jarizok.

Everyone else kinda knows what they're doing.

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Wait, Waco, how do you have Regfan that low?

 

One thing someone should check is regfan.

Is there a likely chance that scum!regsfan played like this because he wanted the towncred for bussing miner hard?

Explanation :
When regfan subbed in mathblade was the runaway lynch and the thread consensus was down with it.
When he gave his reads he
a. made a big case on miner (who was the lump at the time)
b. said he was unsure about mathblade.

sure he might just be right with all that as town, but ..
how good would he look if we just misslynch mathblade and scum!miner gets lumped.

when the wagons swapped over to miner, the only way to make sure he would get the cred for the miner bus was?
miner being obvious mafia at EoD.
I have trouble believing that miner was obvious mafia for no good reason at all. They wanted some info. maybe only info for the comming soup attempt or both that and giving towncred for their deep wolf.

Not saying regfan is scum .. but i am saying people should be careful about that one.


On another note. Jarizok :
Why did you think I am likely town yesterday?
Did you think I was softing dob at one point early on?
Asking for a friend.


There is a good chance that we might just be in a very very good spot .. but I want those two things to be doublechecked.

For now my towns are

Snowvon
Typhon
Mathblade
Fontisian

Koalas if there is no priestclaim today.

in that order, i think.

Q
Jari
Reg

are all three towny .. but the other people are almost always town for me.

Please talk me through the two points I made .. thanks!

 

Discussing Koalas alignment is an entirely pointless thing to do, we just wait for everyone to have posted; we've already had near half the playerlist so it shouldn't take too much longer. I similarly think discussing the scums soup attempt should also hold of us knowing Koalas alignment; I have a few thoughts on the matter I'll provide then.

 

Mathblade is scum. Note how even when Miner was the other wagon, Mathblade never made any real case on him, and jumped over only after the day was over. Furthermore look at the tone change as the wagon is pushed off of her.

 

Waco, man, you don't honestly believe that me/Miner are w/w. You're a reasonable guy, that is not a reasonable thought.

 

Jesus christ Jan, you should have waited before posting that. I didn't want the fact that Jari had "role reasons" to think you're town brought up until a) He'd posted and b) We'd know Koalas alignment. You've just given him thinking time if he's scum.

 

Lol, and there's that. I missed that.

 

Why regfan?

Look at his entrance. How Mathblade is conspicuously absent from his catch-up wall, but he pushes the lynch off anyway. Despite claiming there is a real case on Mathblade in #904 amongst others. Magically by end of day he's lifted Mathblade all the way to a null in #1024.

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Vote Mathblade