Are we vibing Jan?

 

Like it's not even a "Lets get lots of people claim" suggestion, that'd be one that you could call stupid.

It's asking a singular player that's your strongest scum read at the moment Fonti to claim at a time where them claiming reveals their alignment. If they're scum then great we get a CC we go to 9-1. This is something you should be happy with. And if they're town we get no CC and your strongest scum read in the game becomes clear, the person that was the leading wagon D1 and D2, this provides a plethora of information.

 

Bookmarks are there to be abused Newcomb

 

Hi.

You don't know me.

You don't know what I will and will not believe strongly.

You don't understand my level of accuracy here, where I am at my best.

And you don't understand my risk taking. I was about 80% sure Q was the cop in the last game, because he made it obvious by his mindset. I lowballed it to cobalt because I didn't want him getting his hopes up or tmiing anything. For the most part, I don't rolehunt unless it's thrown in my face, as Q did. And I do not sacrifice a kill and the subsequent information in a futile attempt to soup early in a tinyhunt, where literally everyone is trying to hide their role. And I especially do not soup Jan, who sees softing random roles as his bread and butter. This is something that I know but Mathblade and you do not.

You accuse me of having poor reactions to the miner wagon, as if it matters whether a scum is caught day 1 or day 2 and as if I did not start the miner push. You try to take credit for the obvious townreads, as if they are not clear to everyone with half a brain. You try to take credit for your part in the miner lynch, when all you did was push it up a Day. And you consistently interfere with the Mathblade lynch, when Math seems to be the only one who would possibly think Jan was the DOB.

You are not remotely town, Reg. Being able to vomit out content will not help you, not when none of us have the context of your normal town play.

Back off of Waco. Accept the Mathblade lynch. Or die.

 

Ok Reg one corner. Fonti the other. This isn't productive.

 

You think Mathblade/Waco are unaligned.
You think Waco/Fonti are likely on a team (if scum).
If Mathblade flips scum, you still have fonti as 2nd lynch, while believing waco to be very likely town (i am assuming you still want to lynch him at a later point if it comes to it or is he cleared if math is scum?)

Truth be told .. I want to hear from people that are not you, because I believe you to be a smooth talker that is able to convince most people as eithe ralignment.
So I won't get anything from you right now.

I need other people to actually talk to me about things I said about you without you claiming the thread for your own.

I can't stop you talking about those things, but right now it has a mostly negative effect on my opinion of you.
Just go play with the other kids for a while. (no offence it just drowns the conversation i want to have, and no one i want to talk to will intervene right now)

 

Hard to say .. I don't know what you are up to right now.

But I will say yes!

As the two only real confirmed towns in this game, we are on the same wave lenght without talking.

 

@Fonti - If Math is scum (Which is what you're strongly pushing) then having a singular person CC to get Math lynched means that the priest/oracle/graverobber will never ever need to claim unless to end the game (There's only 1 scum left in that case since we'd know Miner+Math are scum). Living through the night kill doesn't translate to one of those roles with the inclusion of angels and there should near never be a situation where one of the strong town reads will need to claim.

Stop trying to treat this exact situation as a standard Witch Hunt game. We've lynched scum D1. There's no deaths in the game. Scum have used one soup. There's only one soup in the game remaining. None of these are the norm. But all of these combined meaning having a singular person out their role actually a winning play.

 

A single outed role helps the scum team solve the game. We are not doing this. Continue to push this, and I will assume that you are scum attempting to get enough information to soup, and act accordingly.

 

@Fonti - And sure I don't know you well nor do I know exactly how you go about PR hunting or the sort. The only thing I can do is try to make a read based on the information I do have and that suggests that I think it's possible for you to make that action N1.

I very much think it matters the order of your reads that you're pushing; I've explained the scum motivation there is in Miner getting the lump - trading him for a priest rather than just flat out dying D1 is a huge difference, there's no way you'll be able to phrase it to suggest otherwise. I've not one "tried to take credit for the town reads", I've just stated and am pushing my own reads; y'know that's how the game works. And the "You constantly interfere with the Math lynch" is you ignoring the fact that I've made it very clear a) I want the lynch to be inside of Waco/Math today and b) I think Math claiming here helps us greatly.

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It's getting to the point where I hope you are scum here, if you're town you're not analysing the gamestate right at all.

 

Reg. Do me a favor. This is coming from a 100% town!firmed mindset. I need to run some numbers but I think we can get away without the claim. I'll check back in soon.

 

Then perhaps you should listen to people like Jan who do know me.

I believe we would be in just as good a position today had we lynched Math and gotten the red on miner, thus taking out two mafia. The priest, contrary to what you are claiming, is not a particularly important role.

 

Eh.

font's kind of fearmongering.

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And there's a chance Math is gonna claim anyways, so we might as well just run them up.

 

Just lynching Math without a claim/cc means we're not going to know her alignment without a claim in the future (And the latter in the games we get a singular claim compared to earlier the more it'll hurt us plus it's plausible the claim at that point could be fake giving us wrong information). By having her claim here we can work out exactly what world we're in. Otherwise we're lynching her and it turns into a possible Miner/?/? world or a Miner/Math/? and both of those suggest looking at very different actions as scum tells.

 

"One claim and scum will win."

EH.

That's incorrect.

 

Which is still either 1) Wrong or 2) Hilariously biased because you need me to be mislynched or 3) Both

By your own reads, I poked a scum read and then didn't act on it with both my teammates. I thank you for calling me a moron.

 

true.

a d2 green and d3 outting/softing is better, but only IF you lynch scum d1/d2.

With no scum lynches on the first 2 days town is in the worst spot most of the time. (enables vigshot, but it is still a bad spot for town)

 

I think my opinion on regfan is pretty well expressed in the thread, but is there anything I can answer for you?

 

Given Jan doesn't have a real town read on you himself the first part does little for me. And again I've expressed it several times but I only think you soup N1 if you're having your partner do it instead of you given you were in a good position and this implies your partner is very much in the focus. I've made it pretty clear that I think very few worlds work where you're scum making that move.

In a 13 player setup where it's universally agreed that ~5 players are town priest absolutely is an important role.