I was so mad when you lynched mathblade without letting me counterclaim them.

Just saying.

 

Waiting on Fluff/Kai/Waco/Von now.

 

Hihi. Fluff reporting for duty.

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Also, I believe Jarizok is town, which means the last scum should be between Waco and Kai.

Unvote

 

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

Just - KaiDASH and The Waco Kid left as potential oracle CC's.

Hopefully that speeds this process up a bit.

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Not going to actually start a reread until I know it's needed.

 

There are few things as relaxing as a chiropractors appointment after work

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I'm going to bed.

 

And then there was one?

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So at this point do we popcorn if Kai isn't the Oracle? Because I feel like there's an uncomfortable amount of info for scum to work with at this point.

 

I'm still holding up hope on Kai CC'ing oracle because that'd make this game easy.

If he doesn't where I'm effectively at is Koalas/Jari would be clear via investigations/lack of cc's, Von/Q/Yourself are flat out innocent childs; your interactions and pushes on both Math/Miner, their interactions with you and your reactions to Fontis reports mean I'm never lynching there, if there's scum inside there they deserve the win. That means I think we can get away with Koalas/Me/You/Q/Von never claiming outside of CC'ing scum claiming our role, with 5 of us not claiming and scum having a singular soup left only we should still be in a solid position.

I do want to go through a reread if Kai doesn't CC to work out where we should be looking to force a claim or lynch first.

 

Kai CCed DOB already? Just sayin.

Back to work.

 

You realise if you're town you're actively helping scum over and over again here Jari, right?

 

Lynch fluff, DOB target Kai?

#ReallyThatEasy

 

Yeah, I agree with that.

I need to sleep at some point, as I've been up quite a while now, but still think we should /probably/ force a Fluff claim first - fonti was right in the Fluff being a little off (plus all of the other reasons I want him).

Literally no clue who should go next, though. Like, I don't think Waco/Math geared themselves up to push each other to death on D2 after losing a partner D1. Equally I think Kai would have been too busy being one with salt to be snarky with Math's flubbed claim. That leaves Jan, which... doesn't feel super right with Math as his partner (think if they were going to soup, they'd have actually gone for it unless Jan thought that it would vault him into the never lynch group - this doesn't feel like that world, because in that world Jan needs to be towny as fuck to go deep cover scum and he's be kinda ehh here.

His activity has fallen significantly, though.

 

With the numbers how they currently are if we forget the soup aspect as a potential way to lose we have 5 kills, 6 if we lynched the DOB ever dies; is that correct Koalas? I know you ran the math on this earlier.

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6 if we lynch or the DOB ever dies* is how it's meant to read.

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Current Situation = 10:1
Lynch (1) + Nightkill = 8:1
Lynch (2), Vig (3) + Nightkill = 5:1
Lynch (4), Nightkill = 3;1
Lynch (5)

If the DOB ever dies taking someone with them that'd take it to (6) with the last day being a 3 way rather than a 4 way. Obviously the soup aspect makes it not quite this simple but trying to weigh up the benefits of claims v no claims here.

 

Roughly where we're at ya. The tl;dr is that the actual non lynch pool is at the point that the only way a single scum can win is a game-solving soup. Which is.. not unlikely. People are dumb.

 

I mean, assuming they hit only the literally outted roles they'd bring down a few of us, and it's not at all unlikely they could get a few more (although if they fucked up they're outed so they can't really blindly guess).

 

So we could technically kill every unclear in the game with no claims being outed and only lose to a big soup. Or we could get the very small scum pool to claim one at a time and lynch whoever is cc'ed. Not quite sure which is the optimal procedure here.

 

More then a few. But this isn't productive talk. Cause hints are hints.

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I think a good scum can solve the game tonight.

 

Eh, so you think forcing claims out of the scum pool is the right move here Koalas?

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If we're doing that I really want to spend some time working out the order we're doing this and spend time rereading peoples interactions with Math first.

 

Kai. Fluff. Jan.

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We'll be solved by then.

 

Probably?

I mean if you remove the people I never lynch based on very strong logic ie. Koalas/Fonti(Assuming she's actually the priest) /Jar i(Asssuming Kai doesnn't CC his Oracle claim) /Von/Q/Tyhon that only leaves the three you mentioned and Waco as people with a remote chance of being scum and some of those I even doubt.

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I'm heading to bed, would like Fonti to chime in on this before we consider proceeding with anything too.