Yes obviously

 

But yes, all three of those roles are easily provable, and not claiming is just to disguise the fact that she cant prove them.

 

I did the Fluff ISO too.

It was fluffy.

I have zero read there.

Can we lump this person????

 

Citrus is town here imo.

Please don't lynch him.

 

Lumping fluff will not change his behavior in any way, if that affects your decision.

I need more votes on Gemma and lump votes on Tom please.

 

Gemma is clearly a better lynch here.

 

Not hard claiming is for soup though right?

Like not gonna say its townie but

 

Not about changing his behaviour, just then we have a scan basically. You wanna scan the hardest to read players, yeah?

 

Fonti just wanna warn you townfirmed tom is pile of unmotivated trolling

Do not want lump

 

Tom, you're fighting the Gemma lynch on technicalities. The problem with her claim is that she isn't fighting like she would be as any of those roles. Period. You're poking at the weakest things provided by people, and ignoring the irrefutable stuff against her, and all it's doing is making you look like her partner.
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I don't think you're town, my dude.

 

Like id still try to keep caring but ive never really suceeded before when confirmed

 

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what. I was trying to say "gasp, you don't say!" in reaction to fonti. how did it end up in the quote box.

 

I mean we're clearly still on her, and after she's dead it becomes clear which role she was out of the ones she claimed, so not claiming after her pick one ploy didn't work is scummy.

 

I think we can suss out fluff’s alignment later.

Lump tom

 

Gemma

Grapefruit
Vaimes

fonti
Regfan
Eidolonic

Jarizok

Citrus
tom
Dels
Cobalt
Umami
fluff

Last tier is kind of ugly and I'm not entirely sure what to do with it.

I'm pretty sold on Grape/Vaimes being town, lots of little things from Vaimes like his exchange with fonti around 374, or 392, that I think he probably doesn't feel comfortable posting as mafia unless he's on a team with me/fonti/tom/Regfan, and I have all 3 of them unaligned so not really a concern for me. Grape's Regfan/fonti paranoia kind of sealed that read for me, but he's done a lot this game that has just felt super natural and genuine and is completely different from how I've seen him play as scum.

fonti/Regfan are both probably town, I'm increasingly paranoid about a world where Reg felt like this would be the one where he could get his mislynch on me but I'm probably just being stupid. fonti's treatment of me feels really genuine, as frustrating as it's been, and I'd go to her last I think if there had to be 1 mafia in that tier. Eidolonic is mostly a tonal read but I think I really have his number as far as his tone is concerned, plus I think the fact that he had his own read on me is a good thing when he could have easily just melded into the general consensus of what was going on at that point.

If I'm not wrong on any of those 5 then we have 3 in the last 7 which isn't terrible I guess? Dels I think can probably clear himself pretty quickly so I'm not too concerned about that slot, he hasn't felt agenda-y in his replace in here the way he did in our last game and I think I can get an accurate read on him here anyway now that I know he actually has a good scumgame.

I've liked Jarizok's thread presence for the most part, and his reads feel weird in the typical Jari fashion without being overdone. His fonti and fluff reads in particular are ones that feel like how town!Jari's brain works. I don't think he has any reason to townread fluff as mafia and the "I want to lynch fonti but I'm going to townread her" is fakeable I guess but it doesn't feel fake. I like that he feels convinced that Ampharos is mafia but gives up the read to consensus, it lines up with what I've been seeing from Jari over the past few games here where he's trying to fight against his crazier, less productive side. I can buy his Regfan/Gemma dichotomy as something he actually believes in.

Citrus feels a little off tonally but I think that's probably just because he's playing from his phone? His recent posting has felt town and I don't feel as bad about his Vaimes thing after 498. I have a bit of a soft spot for him on day 1 because I know he's not good at them, I think if his posting doesn't improve tomorrow I would take a harder look at him but I'm fine with him for now. I think he's probably my preferred lump over anyone else?

tom is tom. I've made a pretense of being able to read him in the past but I don't really think I know how to at all. I've liked the way he's been asking a lot of questions and interacting with me a bunch but it's felt pointless at times and his read on me in particular feels kind of off, I feel like he should be townreading me but he isn't and I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. He hasn't done anything I actually think is scummy though and he seems to be kind of enjoying the game less than I might expect if he were mafia? I think he's more likely to be town than scum but not by much.

Amberiat's 79 was pretty question mark given that the post she was quoting was basically just theory talk, just off her ISO alone I think she would have a pretty solid chance of being mafia but I wouldn't want to lynch the slot at all now that Dels has replaced in.

Cobalt is kind of a mindfuck. It's gotten to the point now where I think if he were mafia I feel like he would have done something other than what he's doing, while at the same time he really hasn't done anything. His follow up with fonti feels ok, but I go through his ISO and just don't really see anything that I actually believe is him having a read. I don't think he's any better than a coinflip, but I definitely don't think people should be townreading him the way they are.

I don't know what to make of Umami. I think in a world where they're town then maybe mafia pushes on them at some point, but I'm not sure how much I believe in that type of gamestate read. I think they're probably above rand scum just for the inactivity but I wouldn't want to lynch them without getting at least something from them.

fluff has done literally nothing. I have no idea what his reads are or anything. I don't think he votes me the way he has if he's town, I don't think he responds to my claim the way he has if he's town, feels too much like he's just taking advantage of thread consensus. I think he's been legitimately trying to improve his towngame recently and don't think he would play this way here, I think he probably rolled scum here and decided to try to break his meta by slanking the way he used to when he was town.

I think if my townreads are correct then we're probably in okay shape, but there are several slots that just haven't been doing anything this game and no one has been giving them any attention and that's pretty concerning. I think a lot of is because of Regfan's tunnel on me, the entire thread has kind of been sucked into that and nothing else for most of the dayphase, so hopefully that will change if I get lynched or after I'm green checked.

 

Sure. Fluff actually isn't as hard to read as his activity level would imply, though he's still definitely not easy to read.

I think Tom's a hard read and is also scummier, so. Lump Tom. Etc.

 

But t om and Gemma can't be partners, they did a whole thing early in the day with "i can read you easily" "haha no you can't read me" "okay lets see how i read you then hehehe "

 

Hello wall.

 

No im disagreeing with objectively incorrect posts

Theres finally reasons gemma is scum now and im paying attention but "she claimed like shes literally supposed to" is not one of them
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And there's no reason for you to.

Still dont want lump
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???

He has an agenda that youre scum though

 

I'm not "letting" anything happen. I've been around constantly, talking about my reads and things, interacting with people, please just stop. You have no idea how annoying it's been having to put up with your stupid misread of me, I've been doing a lot to stay cool because I don't want thread to be toxic but just because I'm not kicking and screaming doesn't mean I'm mafia or anything else, I'm just being me. And you literally can't say I haven't been scumhunting, I've been scumhunting more than most of the game.