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Abandoned To End all Wars by padfootjr24/Trelawney's Love Toy - Eddings:Belgarath - T

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Mordecai, Jul 4, 2006.

  1. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    well the use of telekenisis was not preseasnt in the Belgariad extended universe, however the possiblity of it was there. In Belgarath the Sorcerer He comments numerous times that the Will and the Word is not the only way to do things that seem like 'magic'. Remember there are the two huge peoples of demon summeners who use what they think are rituals to summon demons, and there are the Kels who study the world in order to make the choice, and their are the zealots(in the ulgo mines) who can, though an understanding of matter, pass themselves through rock.

    As for where Harry learned that telekinisis, I am not really sure, though it has been mentioned that Harry has been learning some things from Aldur/Belar in his dreams.
     
  2. Antivash

    Antivash Until we meet again... DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    <_< bah. Cant be bothered with this if there is no Harry/Polgara.

    but it is decent.
     
  3. KenderCleric

    KenderCleric Lord of Plot Bunnies

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    I know this is a very late review of the story, but as a major fan of Eddings I can't resist.

    I really have enjoyed this story and wish the author would update. The concept that he has laid out with Harry being involved in the Belgariad storyline is excellent. It's an adventure that lends itself well to fanfiction, and in-particular the Potter universe.

    So far I've been impressed with the author's ability to keep the Belgariad characters as true to origin as possible. Yes, this meant that Harry had to move more toward the OOC side, but honestly he is the more maliable of the cast of characters. Harry came to the Belgariad universe as a teen. While many of the basic views and personality traits have formed by that age they are still highly suseptable to change. I feel the author has handled this particular "crossover hurdle" very well.

    As far as the Harry/Polgara issue goes I thank the author and his chosen diety for not using the pairing. Without wanting to spoil the books for anyone, Polgara -has- a pairing that is -very- important in the world of the Belgariad/Mallorean. If the author had made the story a Harry/Polgara tale it would have removed the opening for one of my favorite characters later in the story. Aside from that issue the pairing would also shove both characters very far into the OOC area. I applaud the author for choosing to not follow through with what would (to anyone unfamiliar with the books) seem a great pairing.

    I've read a few people's reviews discussing some of Harry's "sudden" abilities (i.e.-telekinisis). I agree that the author had a wide range of in-canon abilities to choose from, but I'm willing to give him some space on the issue. In any crossover you can run into issues of where to smudge the lines in order to maintain the story you're setting up. I believe this may have been one of those times for the author. Considering the fantastic way he has managed to keep to at least the Belgariad canon in most areas I can forgive a few plot holes here and there.

    On a final note I would highly suggest that if you have not read the Belgariad and Mallorean books that you do. No, you don't need to read them to understand the fanfiction (another mark in the favor of the author), but they are an outstanding series of books worth the time.
     
  4. gadriam

    gadriam Second Year

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    It's too bad this story was abandoned. I liked it, even if Harry the Mentalist Master made me retch a bit. Harry, the mean-ass tutor on the other hand was brilliant. Those slight re-edits are great, and Belar in Britain is great fun too. On the Hedwig/Poledra situation, i for one thought a little differently.
    Ah well, we'll never get the full story.

    Too bad.
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  5. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    abandoned? When was it abandoned? Its not listed as such on his profile, nor is it in the story. Besides he has come back to writing fics after longer than this, and apparently he is writing the ficwhere he goes to meet Sirus at the moment. I'm pretty sure its going to continue, in a while anyways. Its only been 5 months, and I'm used to waiting whoel years for updates.
     
  6. gadriam

    gadriam Second Year

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    I guess i'm a bit too impatient then. Besides, even abandoned puppies can find their way back. When a story hasn't been updated in 4 months i consider it abandoned. Sometimes they are resurrected, but once the author loses the flow, they rarely find it again. This guy's quite productive though, so there's hope. I would dearly love to be proven wrong.

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  7. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    This author doesn't update often, the last update was after about 5 months, so the update may be coming along soon.
     
  8. Kirosha

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    As far as I can tell, the story was given over to Trelawney's Love Toy

    Link to Trelawney's Love Toy: To End all Wars
     
  9. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Oh shit. It's not that Vanishing Illusions is bad, but that author absolutely butchered the other fic he adopted, and I'm not confident about his ability to handle a fic as good as this one.
     
  10. Lincos

    Lincos Professor DLP Supporter

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    This is off Trelawney's Love Toy profile, incase you haven't see it.

     
  11. carl

    carl Seventh Year

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    What's the URL as the search isn't working for me on fanfiction.net?
     
  12. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    Yeah I really liked this fic and am wary about how he is going to handle it. Its an awesome fic. For those who can't find where the new author is reposting it, I have put the link below. The author is posting the already done chapters by Padfootjr24 once a day as he works on the half finished chapter eight that Padfootjr24 had.

    I am really getting worried. Vanishing Illusions was ok, but this was an awesome fic. Hopefully Padfootjr will at least talk it over with his friend. This is one fic he wanted to see completed so hopefully he wants to see it done well.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1262998/Trelawneys_Love_Toy
     
  13. uriel

    uriel Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Well luckily for us chapter 8 (the next chapter due) was half written already by Padfootjr, so we'll have a one chapter buffer before the butchering begins.

    As for the Harry/Polgara.. it definitely needs to happen. The canon pairing, and the reason for it was pretty weak.
    Really you could replace anyone with him. For instance, you could say that it's the reason why Harry was summoned to the world.. because.. he's the man with two lives (killing curse?).

    As for the 'important' role that was carried out by the canon character? Harry can just as easily take that role! By the time he's needed he'll be fully able to utilise the will and the word.. he's familiar with the orb of aldur.. It would be easy to twist the story to accept Harry as the pairing for Polgara, the story is already AU as it is, and it'd suck if this was just a recounting of the story + Harry.

    Speaking of which I think its time I petitioned the new author ;)
     
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  14. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    One of the things I like about this fic is the way Potter style magic fits into the framework of the Will and the Word. One thing I WOULD like to see is Harry finding in his things either a book on wards or runes. Those are the only two Harry Potter style magics he does not seem familiar with and with three thousand years to practice, well closer to four thousand if I remember correctly, he could become quite skilled.

    And yes the Polgara/Harry needs to happen. Though then again Harry going Overprotective big brother on Dunrick, just to annoy Polgara, has its place as well;)
     
  15. uriel

    uriel Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Only if he's nailing her :)

    I think Harry will find some way to learn about runes and wards. The towers all the apprentices live in are sealed shut unless opened in a special way (a type of ward im sure), and when summoning demons they have to draw all kinds of fancy patterns to keep the demons in line (a type of rune!)
     
  16. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    No, remember that Belgarath has said that they don't need that kind of stuff however they THINK they do, so it forces them to do it. As for the seal on the towers thats not exactly true. All they have is a massive boulder as a door that is much to heavy to move manually. They just go "MOVE" and it moves for them.

    However your point is well made that after three thousand years Harry should be well versed in those kinds of things.
     
  17. bornagainpenguin

    bornagainpenguin DLP Archivist

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    I have chapters 1-7 of the original in the archives. I'm not bothering with the rewrite at this time, given that its been over three months since the other author got the partially finished chapter eight and there has been no movement on this.

    --bornagainpenguin
     
  18. the13thdragon

    the13thdragon Raptured to Hell

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    The author posted a note at the end of one of his other fics saying that this would be updated within a week, that was three weeks ago :(
     
  19. bornagainpenguin

    bornagainpenguin DLP Archivist

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    Yeah, well the point is there doesn't seem to be any reason to include the fic in this iteration of the archives if it hasn't been significantly changed from the version already in there...

    --bornagainpenguin
     
  20. the13thdragon

    the13thdragon Raptured to Hell

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    I didn't say it so it would be added to the archives but for the posters who asked if it had been abandoned. On that note the author pm'd me when I complained; apparently it’s almost done and should be up in the next few days.

    Crosses fingers
     
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