My memories maybe a little vague but didn't Voldemort forcefully manipulate Harry's spine to bend, making Harry bow before Voldemort? This is far different then impero. This occurred during the night Voldemort revived in the forth book.

I found this really interesting and i have yet to see this kind of magic used in any fanfics. It has possibilities that have yet to be explored.

 

Sounds like just another spell to me, rather than a whole new branch of magic.

Could either be a specific spell to bend the body in that way or a more general spell to apply pressure (in this case to the upper back). Could even be an imaginative application of one of the spells we already know of. Mobilicorpus, perhaps. After all, it's moving the body, just not all of it at once. Or it could be an animation spell (though Mobilicorpus could come under that definition).

I suppose it could even be human transfiguration, though that seems like an inefficient way to go about it.

As you say, it doesn't seem to be a mental manipulation.

 

Disgraceful muggles. It is clear that Lord Voldemort's mastery of the force goes beyond our understanding. The very air we breath bends to his will.

But yea, I'm with taure. He had his wand at hand on that time. It's just a silent cast spell.

 

I still have my doubts but I agree. Though I believe that for powerful wizads such as Dumbledore and Voldemort who have reached a pinnacle of there wizardom, they would have gained/learned other minor abilities. It would be inevitable. Like the way Dumbledore lit the cabinet on fire in the latest trailer (canon or not that was damn impressive) was something only wandless magic and the power of will could do. Though i'm probebly wrong....

 

Lighting a cabinet on fire is something you can only do with wandless magic and power of will?

You know there are several fire spells in the books, right? And do you also remember that Dumbledore lights Tom Riddle's wardrobe on fire with his wand?

I'm sure they know lots of rare and uncommon magic, but I'm not sure about gaining special abilities. As far as we can see, most unique abilities appear to be genetic. The only thing I can think of is the speed of their wand draws, but McGonagall and Snape are also capable of this.

 

Does Dumbledore's "magic touch" that he uses in the cave in Book 6 count as a special ability?

 

wait, we are going to use HP movies for proof of Canon now?

 

I never read the book unfortunately and i was uncertain if that was canon or not. I apologize for my ignorance. Still...it was damn impressive on the trailer.

I believe that when one is very emotional, magic lashes out and this is a natural common occurrence among wizarding children. ie. blowing up his aunt, hair growing back, teachers hair color changing etc etc
And emotions is tied to magic, sometimes overpowering magical spells through anger or pain.

And through will, one can hold a tight leash on there magic, thus performing wandless magic though minor they may be. So it's basically a hundred year old harry potter doing all the accidental magic he did as a kid, without the use of a wand with ease.

That's my theory anyhow.

But I'll just drop the matter lol seems like I'm way out of my league.

 

Reading the books might help.

 

This.

/end thread.

 

It has been treated in fanfiction. For instance, Sib's The Awakening Power dealt with this kind of magic. In that tale, it was an "S-class jutsu" type of spell normally employed by sculptors on inanimate media. Voldemort apparently used it on Harry's body.

Spoiler

Harry used it on Malfoy in the story, which set up the big romantic resolution between Harry and Ginny.

 

I always linked that scene to some sort of legilimency skill.

We could also say his glasses are charmed to see traces of magic, and to see little boys underwear.

Methinks any idiot can grab a stick fast. Is what they do with it that matter.

And yea, Lame innuendo are lame.

 

I actually remember this exact story.

Which kind of makes me sad

 

Really seems rather shallow for a magical society to not have abilities granted by the use and application of magic.

Yes there are natural genetic abilities, but maybe for them to even exist they needed to be created by an ancestor in the first place?

In a number of fanfiction the creation of such abilities exists. So clearly others thinks that such abilities could be created through skill and power rather than merely ones ancestry.

In other fics where witches and wizards have creature ancestry it serves to explain where such abilities can come from.

 

Creature ancestry = biological. What sort of abilities are you talking about, anyway?

 

The infamous "Black fire" no doubt, among other things.

No evidence of any abilities like this in canon at all.

 

Sounds like a copy/paste from Naruto and another 1000 other mangas. It's totally useless in a HP fanfiction.

 

...So you join a forum that discusses Harry Potter.

You start a discussion on magical theory/the validity of fanfiction cliches that plague FFN.

...and you never even read the books?!

 

There are two objections I have to it, if we're trying to mesh it with canon.

Firstly, we never see any of them. We know, for example, that none of the other Blacks had Tonks' powers. She was the first. We've seen plenty of Purebloods.

Secondly, Dumbledore's insistence that choices are more important than inheritance. I mean, the whole theme of the book was that it doesn't matter where you come from, it's what you do with yourself.

With these two in mind, any such special abilities, if they exist at all (and I see no positive evidence to this, your post contained a rather large number of "ifs", Sesc), can at best be said to be inconsequential, for they never appear. No Pureblood seems to have used them to gain an upper hand in a fight.

My objection for it appearing in fanon is much simpler. The concept is lame.