Nice story. It drags a little at times... but a slow build-up is fine, so long as it's not matched by the slowness of the update rate (which doesn't seem like a problem so far).

I think Harry will be a good match for Loki in a fight, since they will both be using magic and their smarts to get by.

Harry is physically weak compared to Thor, the Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America, but his magic gives him a ton of abilities that could mess them up in a fight if he uses them creatively and tactically. I imagine Asgardians, the Hulk, and various enemies will have a strong degree of resistance, if not immunity, to Harry's magic, like giants in the HP universe. So instead of casting directly at them, Harry would just have to use transfiguration and other kinds of magic to render the battlefield around them into a trap.

In fact, I think he should quickly learn that simple, direct spells like the Reductor Curse or Stunning Spell, etc. are only good for Muggles and don't suffice for stronger opponents. He'll have to use his head and be tricky with his magic, but in the end that will make him the most dangerous member of the Avengers, due to the sheer versatility of his magic.

I'm not advocating that Harry be significantly more powerful than the other Avengers, but in terms of what he's capable of, he should be slightly ahead of them. He is the protagonist, after all. But yeah, there should definitely be a steep learning curve before he can really use his magic effectively in combat, as he adjusts to fighting inhumanly strong and magic-resistant enemies.

He should also be tempted, at times, to use some of the Dark Arts. It makes sense. There's no Ministry of Magic around to punish him, no wizarding world at all. The only thing stopping him is his sense of right and wrong, which could be tested during battles and times of stress. I mean, if Harry won't even use Legilimency on Muggles, then he's got a long way to go before he'll use the Dark Arts, even in a crisis and against a truly evil enemy. But the temptation should still be there sometimes.

Also, a magical duel between Harry and Loki would be very cool, if you could work that in sometime later in the story.

Finally, was the reference to the broom salesman in the 80s supposed to be James Potter?

 

I'm pretty quick with updates, usually. It depends on whether I can find inspiration, though - the fact that I have multiple fics should help with that as I always have at least one I can work on. (I do intend to get a few more chapters of this one out before I further the others, notably Torikaeru is getting to a Big Moment.)

Indeed, though Loki will really only enter things when the Thor events happen, which isn't for a bit yet. Harry has a run-in with Banner before that.

I figured that Asgardians have resistance (they do against pretty much everything else and they are using magic too, essentially) and the Hulk might be more capable of dealing with physical effect spells than mental ones, though comic!Hulk has no appreciable weaknesses to speak of so eh.

Using the environment to one's advantage is already something I've been playing with in Torikaeru - one of the characters there is essentially underpowered but uses trickery and careful planning to beat enemies far superior in sheer ability.

Indeed - though using the Elder Wand, more powerful versions of the spells might still be helpful, particularly the more explosive ones in his arsenal.

Well, the Avengers movie managed to make the team seem fairly cohesive and not horrible skewed, even though there were some serious badasses alongside relatively normal people (e.g. Hulk and Black Widow) so as long as Harry fits in there without being ridiculously overpowered compared to the others, it should work out. Still, if you're being compared to the likes of Iron Man and Thor, you're kind of awesome too.

As you've noted, I've already included a few elements of this; at this point Harry's hesitant to use the Elder Wand much due to its history, and he's already a bit hesitant about using serious magic on muggles; befuddlement charms might help him out, but he's not quite the type to start slinging Legilimency around. He gets tempted to in the next chapter, though.

Harry could pull off an Avada Kedavra if he really needed to - he has had Auror training, he's not an innocent boyscout; the reasons he doesn't have nothing to do with skill and everything to do with the kind of person he is and the kind of history behind him. Given that his Boggart's been changing since the war (again, coming chapter) and as such his fears, it's no surprise he's hesitant.

Well, of course! He will be involved in the events of Thor, after all.

Yes - essentially I figured without a Wizarding World, some of the people might still be born - they're just people after all - but not end up where they did in Harry's reality. (The broom then is a bit of an ironic echo of Quidditch). James and Lily met through Hogwarts, so it's no surprise that there is no Harry Potter in this reality, then.

 

Just thought I'd take this moment to point out that Harry does not own a "moleskin pouch".

Hagrid owns a moleskin overcoat, and a waistcoat.

Hagrid gave Harry a mokeskin pouch.

A moke being a small lizard that shrinks when it feels threatened, and whose skin can be used to make a pouch that contracts in the presence of strangers, making it hard to steal from the owner.

There are no pouches fashioned from moleskin ever mentioned in Harry Potter, and I grit my teeth every time I see this (which, sadly, is quite often).

 

Thanks, fixed it on FFnet at least. I guess the confusion isn't too weird.

 

I've definitely seen stranger mistakes; the spelling is awfully close.

Maybe if people remembered it was supposed to be magical, they would think twice about it simply being a "moleskin pouch".

Otherwise, awesome story. None of the typical crossover bullshit, like rehashing canon (either HP or Avengers) and merely replacing/adding a bit of dialog here and there, or going through interminably boring transitional scenes (as characters are integrated into the new world with which they're being crossed over) while waiting for the story to hopefully become awesome.

Quality stuff.

And, I can't tell you how pleased I am that Harry was smart enough to find the surveillance device, destroy it, and subsequently be suspicious of Natasha (even if he did slip up and get caught on that camera in the beginning).

In a lot of stories, he'd never have looked for the bug in the first place; if he found it, he might not have had a clue what it was; and, even if he'd figured out what it was and eliminated it, he'd have never become suspicious of the total stranger who was suddenly spending tons of time around him.

Even when authors aren't busy trying to turn Harry into a naive idiot for the purpose of making it easier to move their plot along, they seem awfully fond of having him act totally ignorant about muggle technology... like he didn't live with it for a decade. :facepalm

 

I suppose, yeah.

Harry's story here impacts the others, but I'm not going for a rehash; there's really only one scene so far that is and that's a short one in Chapter 1 to set up what time we're playing in. Also I try to avoid just going over verbatim dialogue from the movies; there's a few lines so far that are the same, but they're ones that are by characters completely unaffected by Harry's presence up to that point, so there's no reason why they might act differently. (Rhodey, notably.)

Thanks.

Well, he didn't so much find it as disable it; with the cooling charms he was using in that climate, the thing just started malfunctioning and Harry felt something was off; the souped up detection charm killed it the rest of the way. That betrays his sort of wizardy way of thinking, too: instead of physically checking for what might be the problem (as a normal person would do) he's so used to magical stuff being involved that he goes straight for the wand.

Well, Harry's rather uninformed as to specifics; he knows basic stuff about Muggle tech but he's bound to be a bit clueless on recent advances given that he's not been living in a society where he'd even learn that sort of stuff. He's no Arthur Weasley in that he forgets what spark plugs are, but hardly Hermione either.

Right - but I think it's also important to realize that he's not used to being in a muggle society, moreso than that he doesn't know anything about it. He can get things done with magic that other people need papers and such for, but he might not have realized that in itself leaves a trail of conspicuous incidents behind to a careful observer. E.g. getting off a plane without even having a registered ticket kind of makes people stumble.

 

When you post the new chapter, are you going to post it into the first post of this thread, or just make a new post? I ask because I want to know whether I should be just checking the thread for updates, or whether I need to keep checking the main post.

I now see the problem with unlimited edit time for WBA threads.

 

I always assumed it was possible to apparate without using a wand like you would casting a normal spell. It was yet another reason to be disappointed with Half-Blood Prince. Many fan fics up until then had often used apparation as an escape method after losing a wand.

 

Well, I could always post that I put up a new chapter and add it to the OP, I suppose...

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Well, it would make things a bit OP if Harry didn't need a wand.

 

Please do so.

Im sitting here waiting for an update.

 

About 4500 words done - I planned out my chapter for this length, but I didn't get to cover 1/3rd of what I intended, so that will go into the next chapter. Mostly the reason is that a scene got longer than I'd anticipated because I put SHIELD in there.

Getting there.

 

Yeah, fair enough tbh. I'd rather you took a bit extra time and gave us more quality as opposed to quantity.

 

I don't know man...when you're fiendin', you're fiendin'.

 

I wouldn't give them a blanket pass on not being affected by magic. I could see giving them a high level of resistance and forcing Harry to cast the majority of the spells on the environment to attack them indirectly. I do think Avada Kedavra should keep it's status as being unblockable. That is what makes that spell so special.

There are some other spells as well. Particularly I'm thinking of the spell Dumbledore used in the Department of Mysteries on Voldemort. If I recall correctly, he essentially surrounded the man in water which tends to kill or at least cause a person to pass out due to lack of oxygen. I could be wrong about that particular spell because I don't have my books on me right now.

Personally, I'm looking forward to after the Avengers movie ends. Thanos appears. He is known for being obsessed with death and Harry is the Master of Death in this story even if he is hesitant to use that title, and you have been unclear as to what that means. Though I think it is implied that it does have quite a bit of meaning from the few quotes about it in this story.

 

Posted Chapter 5 - it's the first version so there's probably more errors than the other chapters.

 

If upon closer inspection, by either S.H.I.E.L.D, Asgardians or Stark, if Harry's magic turns out to be sufficiently similar to the energy produced by the tessaract or arc reactor, it would be pretty sweet if he went to study "magic" in Asgard for a while. Someone with the ability to naturally produce those energies would be pretty interesting to even the Asgardians (they use technology to mimic magic usage). Reciprocity and all that. And unlike the humans, the Asgardians would be less inclined to abuse that kind of knowledge.

Picture it. Harry Potter, Earth's ambassador to Asgard.

Wandless magic via Asgardian training. Auror combat practices. SHIELD combat practices. Self-enchanted Asgardian armour.

 

So Harry drank the Nano-drones? Well, considering how technology behaves in highly magical environment and I would say that wizard's body is just that, they should stop work very quickly, if they manage to transmit anything at all.

Also, I like this story. Definitely the best HP/Marvel (even if it's movie verse) crossover I've seen.

 

Well, he shouldn't take tea from strangers.

We'll get to the tech shorting out soon enough - still, even the bug he got earlier worked for a little while. I figure it's extended rather than momentary exposure that makes things go apeshit. A bit of magical inertia, perhaps?

Aw, shucks.

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You are in the right direction - the Asgardians do indeed play into it, as well as the arc reactor (which has already been mentioned.) and Harry will inevitably end up involved there too, even if he might not contribute to the movie's plot itself. (It happens in a rather short period in the middle of nowhere. )

 

Should be she'd. She's is the wrong tense.

Just considerable is fine.

Did you mean sift?


Another really good update. Keep it up man.