Tell you what, you try writing it, and Im sure Khorne and I will both be willing advisors and consultants for you

And don't double post, it gets up the admins noses.

 

I am sure I've got the old 4th and 5th edition Magic Rule Books, detailing the subsidiary Colleges of magic, like the Bronze, Gold and Amethyst. I always liked the Purple Sun of Xerces.

I know I've got all the army books for 5th and 6th edition so I can provide any background knowledge for the basis or the theory side of it, and the spells if anyone wanted to take it up.

I quite like Mordecai's idea of some representatives of the Imperial Colleges teaching at Hogwarts, the only problem is who else to put in with Harry, at best you could just go with the eight standard Lore's in the Rule book, so you would need seven extra people. Traditionally the death rate for magical practitioners in Fantasy is quite high unless being heavily supervised, so if you wanted it was a way to kill off someone that would work. Plus you could get rid of Hermione as a friend due to the fact the Imperial Colleges have strict rules about sharing their knowledge with anyone who isn't an apprentice to themselves.

It could also work quite well if you did it post GoF or OotP, for GoF have a malfunction with the portkey either to or from Voldemort's location, maybe having Harry and Cedric end up in the Empire in Fantasy and then spending a year or two getting trained in different arts, and either have Cedric get killed in the apprenticeship or end up as Harry's friend so when eh goes back he doesn't feel the need to tell Hermione and Ron everything.

For post OotP then I think Mordecai's idea would work best, maybe have several of the Colleges train other Hogwarts students whilst Harry gets apprenticed to someone higher up. You could always make it so that Dumbledore once received and apprenticeship off a High Elf and maybe then create a semi useful Dumbledore, giving Harry the option of a private tutor, away from castle and friends, and have Harry simple grow up and leave his friends behind.

For either I think it would obviously work best with as little other people as possible also getting training, and/or surviving, simply to make Harry that more valuable. If you did the him ending up in the Fantasy world then when he comes back let him trow around his political weight as an envoy of the Imperial Colleges for a good political!harry with some extra skills.

I might take a stab at writing it myself just to see what people think of it. I would like to know what people think would be a good Lore for him to learn, and which idea to you makes more sense, envoys teaching an apprenticeship at Hogwarts, or Harry somehow getting sent to the Fantasy world and learning there.

 

I didn't actually mean having Imperial College folk come to Hogwarts, I meant something like you suggested with Harry and Cedric. Its a good idea that one. maybe have Harry apprentice with Thyrus Gormann (i think thats his name) and Cedric with Balthasar Gelt, apprenticed to two rivals, but friends all the same. Doing it that way, you don't need to make up complete OC's. Or of course you could have them both go ino the one college, perhaps Death or Shadow if you want to have shock value when they get back home, or Life or Beasts if you want to go for real light side Harry. I would jsut advise to steer clear of Heavens, as it is just cheesy, completely and utterly.

As for what you said about Imperial College envoys, it would work, especially if one of them was a fire wizard, since they are usually the ones that get sent as envoys for the Emperor or the Colleges.

Btw, Im just going by the current (7th) edition lores.

 

Like I say I like your guys' ideas but even the idea of writing anything as expansive as that makes me just flinch; I've been reading HP fanfics for just over 4 years now so about a year ago I decided to write a couple one-shots for the hell of it ....hehehe...... they both sucked in everyway possible very very badly. Since then I've decided to stay on the sidelines and give reviews and helpful comments, hence the random thread wondering about others' writing lol.

P.S. Believe me or not I really did try it.

 

Hell, you can't just give up. Like Mordecai and Khorne just said, they will gladly offer ideas, and help you too make it work. And tell ya what, being a mega WarHammer player. (Both fantasy and 40k) sense back in third edition, I will offer my services to you as well. I mean, if you need a few ideas on how to get something done in it, i'm sure if we all put our heads together for maybe ten minutes we could come up with something original.

-Void Sorcerer

P.S. Sorry, but I much prefer Cedric dead then alive. (No offence to the idea, it is good but ya.)

 

Another time it could be written would be with the portkey made by Dumbledore to take Harry away from the Ministry after the duel with Voldemort. Theoretically, there may be a reason that portkeys are restricted and its that its difficult to make them properly. Dumbledore did in a second, without great care or anything. Possibly he made it slightly wrong and combined with say the lingering taint of the possession or something Harry gets sent sqweewiff.

Void, what armies do you play as?

What would make sense would be for us all to get together on an IM service to discuss it. I use pretty much all of them bar ICQ, and thats only cause I can't get my head round it, so feel free to contact me anytime im on.

 

If we all want, I can agree to meeting some time. Although, the only chat program I have is "MSN Instant Messenger".

As for the Armies I play;
Fantasy:
Chaos Mortals/Beasts/Demons (Tzeentch being my speciality although, I do mix it around with the other Gods)
Orcs/Goblins (Only Goblins, cause hey, They RULE!)
Dark Elves
Wood Elves
Vampire Counts
Dogs of War
And I sometimes barrow my friends High Elves

40k:
Dark Eldar
Sisters of Battle (SoB's)
Necron
Space Marine (Although I detest the foul things, I sometimes play them)

 

I've just about written a first possible starter chapter for the transported after the GoF duel, I'll post that sometime today or tomorrow and see what you think of it.

Not bad armies Void Sorcerer, for Fantasy I've got:
Undead (Vampire Counts 4k points and Khemri 2k points.)
Chaos (2k of Nurgle and 3k of Khorne with 8k lead by Archaon)

For 40k I've got:
Chaos, 33.5k, with at least 3k of every legion.
Orks, 8k, split into Speed Freaks, Bad moons and Goff's.
Necrons, just shy of 7k
Space Marines, just shy of 12k

Then I've got BFG, Necromunda, Gorkamorka, Mordheim, LotR, Epic and Warmaster.

 

Nice Nice. I must say that I prefer Fantasy over 40k but hey it is just me.

I'm not even going to calculate how many points I have of each army, that would take a long......long time.

Sure, post it I will gladly take a look.

 

This is just a rough outline of one of the ideas for the crossover, using the scene from the end of the Goblet of Fire with a few changes, as I didn't feel like copying the scene word for word. Depending on what people think I might continue it and eventually post it in the work by author section, or just leave it at what it is.
I know there isn't much action that happens, nor is the scene with Death Eaters attacking him, but I only wrote it up quickly just to get an idea, any comments are welcome.


Harry Potter was doing to him what was a normal if slightly odd occurrence, dodging strange coloured beams of light being thrown at him by mildly homicidal people in black robes, now it may sound strange but first you need to understand how Harry came into this position. He had been at his school competing in an international tournament between two visiting schools and hi own. Now this would normally be a high coverage event for the media, but instead very few people even knew of the schools existence.

This was because it was magical school. Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, with the other schools being the French Beauxbatons Academy and the Easter European school of Durmstrang Institute. Of course this means that Harry Potter was a Wizard, or more correctly an aspirant Wizard as he was still in school. He had done well in two of the task in the Tri-Wizard tournament, despite not supposed to have been there, as he was the fourth champion, though he did now know how he became the champion. The final task had been a maze, he had ended up taking the cup and being tied in joint place with the other Hogwarts champion, Cedric Diggory, and then everything had gone to hell.

The Cup had been a portkey, transporting them to a graveyard, when Cedric had been killed and Harry himself tied to a tombstone as he watched the most feared Dark Wizard of recent time, Voldemort, become resurrected and then summon his servants, the Death Eaters. Harry had briefly duelled with Voldemort and was under no impression other than it was plain dumb luck that he had survived that duel, after all he had four years of magical experience and against over forty. Yet luck was with him as his wand shared a core with Voldemort’s and as brother wands they didn’t work well against one another. Now he was crouched behind a tomb stone as Death Eater threw curses at him.

He desperately wanted to fulfil his promise to Cedric and take his body back, but if it truly came down to the line he would save his own life. Luckily he didn’t have to make that choice as he swung he wand round and muttered quietly, his voice unbearable over the yells of the Death Eaters.

“Accico Cup.”

Then without pausing he pointed his wand at Cedric’s body.

“Accico Cedric.”

The Accico spell was a simple summoning spell but he had already learnt how useful it could be. Just as he predicted the Cup and Cedrics corpse came speeding towards him, the body slightly faster as it had been nearer. Grabbing Cedrics arm he then with his wand hand grabbed the cup and felt the familiar jerk at his navel to signify it was a portkey, however when the cup started to shuddered as well he got perturbed.

The cup shuddered and Harry felt like he was not only being pulled from one place to another, but like he was breaking through something with the consistency of glass, that was the last he knew before he passed out.

The cause of his uncomfortable trip was due to Buntermun Rashom, a one of the major Apprentices to Balthazar Gelt, Supreme Patriarch of the Imperial Colleges of Magic. He had been doing an Alchemistical ritual, yet had ran out of sulphur so had been forced to use small amounts of gunpowder to meet the quota, not counting the magic he invoked to cause the gun powder to explode and the shock to knock over a beaker of rare Hydra Scales that were being experimented on.

He had been attempting to summon stone out of the ground, the basis of making a good golem to acts as a guard to his quarters, yet the Hydra scales had an unforeseen side effect. Just as Balthazar felt a rupture in the flow of magic through the Wind of Chamon and entered the room, he saw his foremost apprentice collapse, not moving in the slightest indicating he was dead.

As he went to confirm this and explosion occurred, though nothing but air was displaced as two bodies appeared in the room. Carefully walking over to the bodies he was one was just as unmoving as his apprentice, yet one was breathing, both had pieces of wood in their hands, and they both resonated with magic. From this he could conclude whatever his apprentice had been planning was a summoning ritual and it had gone wrong, summoning two foreigners by the looks of their robes, who would wear black but a foreigner, none of the Lore’s of Wizards wore black, and they did not reek of Chaos so they were not heretics following the four dread powers.

Looking at their face he would have thought they were from Middenheim or somewhere in Hocland, yet he had travelled their extensively and never seen them, or anyone dressed in their garb. Quickly pulling on the strong winds of magic left over from the ritual he encased the living one’s hands in stone as well as his feet, leaving his wand free, but pointing upwards. Making a quick decision he left to room to gather the other heads of the Lore’s of Magic, this was indeed a strange occurrence, Humans who used magic, yet weren’t of the Lore’s and not of Chaos, yet didn’t look like they were from far Cathay.

They would need to be watched and the living one would have to answer who he was, and maybe the head of the Amethyst order could find the soul of his Apprentice before it got lost and get some answers out of him. This wasn’t what he needed right now, not with the Grand Theogonist already calling for an Inquiry into the Colleges as they were in danger of falling to Chaos as they refused to turn up to the Sigmarite Mass.

It wasn’t their fault they didn’t want to be under anyone’s thumb, besides nearly all of the Wizards of the Colleges of Magic had research projects or were teaching Apprentices constantly, they made their prayers to Sigmar when they could, not when the Theogonist demanded, this would made an awkward situation trying to explain why he had lost his apprentice, yet gained another corpse and a foreign magic user, just what they didn’t need.

With Chaos gathering in Nosca, with Orcs and Ogres gathering just beyond the World Edge Mountains and even their being rumours of vast shambling armies of the Dead moving in Khemri and even worse the Amethyst’s had been reporting strong winds coming out of the Desolation of Nagash, and that would mean the Dread Lord of the Dead himself was back.

Closing the door behind his Balthazar shook his head, the Empire was faced with doom and now he had another puzzle on his doorstep and a new Theogonist wanting to make a name for himself with his death, things were not good. Still the Supreme Patriarch did had a few things up his sleeves, besides potion vials of exploding chemicals, and maybe this new magic user could be help, for now he would wait and see.

 

I don't know, the whole thing seemed a bit rushed if you ask me. And the explanation as to how he got there......just doesn't cut it if you ask me. But lets not go just by me, lets see what a few others have to say before we judge.

 

I would have to go along with that and say it wasn't particularly good. A couple of main points, the spell is Accio, not Accico, and the word is alchemical, not alchemistical. As well as that, Balthasar is a Gold Wizard, he controls metal not stone or anything like that. That also causes problems with creating a golem, as that would require the manipulation of stone.

Also, the way it started was not particularly good. You're writing a fanfiction, no one is going to read fanfiction unless they know the canon first. So, no need to start it like a book and explain everything. Just filch maybe a lead in paragraph from GoF, then write from there, and ratehr than have it as something at the other end making them go through to the Old World, maybe make it due to Harry getting hit by a spell or the cup getting hit by a spell just as they leave.

 

I'll add to this tomorrow all, but I just wanted to say that the main reason I haven't written anything else and am not planning on writing anything is that I'm a lazy bastard. lol.

 

don't know if your still intrested but there's a quite good hp/warhammer fantasy crossover here:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3964902/1/Champion_of_a_Dark_God

 

Very interested I'll definatly read, thanks alot!