uh nope.

Much of the utility of the Dancer comes from that they can drop hints about being another role and eat a night kill with absolutely 0 loss to town.

Confirming someone as the dancer just means they'll be sitting around til late game when the rogue warlock feels like eating them, since the dancer is the absolute last role witches want to nk. (depending of course on the effectiveness of the dancer as a player).

Also nope.

If you and Taure were scumbuddies with Sesc, you would know that Sesc is going to eat a Judgelynch at the end of the day so voting for him initially is very nearly the last thing you want to do. And agreeing with Sesc on big issues is similarly big scumtell. So there are reasons you would be scumbuddies but not being obvious about it (uh.. I feel kind of stupid just having to say that since it should go without saying).

So Necrule, do you have a scumbuddy list for myself and Sesc? If not, you should go make one.

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double post:

This is worded badly/wrong and I forgot to fix it - What I mean is if they were scumbuddies, a 'casual' association with Sesc like Taure had (votehopper go!) is fine, but a dedicated one like parking your Mayor vote there is definitely not what you want to do at all.

 

Jesus Christ, you guys are all retarded. Seriously, Castiel as mayor? That was the worst fucking choice. How they fuck did that happen? He had absolutely nothing going for him other than the fact that he had few votes already. Everyone who voted for him voted for him for that reason. Ashaya is pretty clearly a town role. Either one of Kai and Sesc is a town role, and voting for either one of them, according to Kai's plan, would result in a net benefit to the town - either a pro-town mayor or a dead scum. Castiel, on the other hand, is an opportunist who jumped into the chaos of the Kai vs. Sesc fight and took advantage of it to get votes. Exactly as a scum would have.

Fuck y'all. We're doomed. If I had known Castiel was going to get mayor, I would have switched my vote to Kai. I didn't think you were that stupid though.

As for Aekiel: you're not Irene. Somehow, tenuous reasoning is a lot less convincing in your hands. Going back over the last few pages you could link pretty much any three players together with the same level of confidence (that is, none) since all you have to go on is one post in support of someone. The fact that you tried to do so hints to me that you're scum.

Current scumdar: Aekiel, Castiel, Sesc/Kai.

Necrule: that's why I didn't follow you and vote Castiel.

/rage.

Vote: no lynch.

 

How about this.

You're a witch, or you're stupid.

But no matter what, you're dead.

 

Sesc, a little confused here, if you claim dancer, and you aren't then no dance tonight. so we're still not sure if you're clear... if there is dancing, then we know you are town. but that would only mean that you're clear, not clearing anyone else.

If you get NK'd by the witches, do we even see you were the dancer if you are?

 

Heh.

While it's true that the plan would work, I feel that it's a bit late for that, Sesc. If you were the dancer you shouldn't have claimed judge in the first place. And given that the role of the dancer is to be unconfirmed, it doesn't do much good to have it confirmed publicly. Finally, if you are scum, this is exactly the kind of thing you would do to buy yourself another day.

I'm going to stick with my no lynch vote and let the real judge strike down the false. If you really are the dancer and Kai really is the judge and you die then, well, sucks for you but you shouldn't have judge claimed.

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Although, again, worst case scenario here is that Sesc is the Warlock and Kai is his judge thrall and they're putting on a performance for us.

 

>meanwhile in Witchville

'hey sesc, go do something crazy in the thread so we can throw you further under the bus'

'SOUNDS GOOD'

 

If you actually are town and claimed to be judge just because 'kai is untrustworthy/always scum/somesuchbullshit' then you got what was coming as far as I'm concerned.

 

I love it when people say this with nothing whatsoever to back it up.

Sesc said that? Must have missed it.

 

Well, I still don't know why he claimed to be judge, tbh. When he was saying he was judge, he provided a plausible reason for his coming out. Now, I don't understand why he did it. It could serve no real purpose whatsoever.

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Well, wanting to prevent Kai from getting Mayor is understandable, but that was, tbh, one of the worse ways to go about it.

 

I think this is a difference in our playing mindset. I am very risk adverse and you are the opposite, doesn't help that I am convinced that only the Warlocks had a Judge candidate and they were relying on the Town believing the Warlock's roleclaim.

The way I see it, if we were the Witches together, we'd have one of two strategies.

Put our full support behind Sesc get the mayor abilites, hope you were of the other faction and the Judge lynches you first. Then work to keep the Judge from using his abilities once more. Obviously I'd hate this plan with a passion.

Disperse our votes and not go for the Mayor position, work to avoid everyone getting implicated when one is found out. My kind of plan.

Instead, with our voting patterns, the result is a hybrid of the two plans. Not something that makes sense as a grand plan to me.

It might make sense to you, but I have learned early on, in Mafia, you and I don't think alike at all.

Now for my scum lists.

Kai/Aekiel- Aekiel was suspicious in how much he tried to get votes for you early on, there was a period of time when I was reconsidering the connection but at the end of the mayor vote the way you guys interacted set something off. The two of you were too open and trusting of one another at the time, I felt.

Sesc/ you will laugh, Taure.

It doesn't make sense to me that they are witches together. But they do make sense as the Warlock faction. Taure banging on the don't trust Kai drum as hard as he was, was good for preparing Town to trust Sesc's big reveal.

 

How can you justify counterclaiming as a town, when if my claim is fake I will be killed by the real judge at the end of the day?

It just does not make any kind of sense.

The most important thing there is 'eat a night kill' rather than eat a lynch.

 

I admit this looks bad in retrospect.

In my defence, you're just going to have to trust that I'm a big enough arsehole to screw over Kai without any ulterior motive.

 

Can we end the day already so I can kill Sesc? It would make me feel about 500x better.

This is my face right now

 

Vote: no lynch