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What Do You Count As Canon?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skeletaure, May 22, 2008.

  1. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Why do people think book 5 is any good. Why take book 5 and not book 6?
     
  2. Korisovra

    Korisovra Headmaster

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    I wish I hadn't read DH.

    @Oephyx - Most us don't give a damn that Sirius died, I know I didn't. But HPB is where you got the chest monsters, crappy plots, angsty/emo!Harry who snivels and simpers and backs down and and and...

    Not to mention that it's a book of almost all filler/boring shit.

    It just sucked massive donkey nuts.
     
  3. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    It's not really Sirius, at least not any more than Dumbledore for me. It's just that in terms of writing, I thought 5 was worse, and more filler based. There were more goodies as well perhaps, like Tonks, and Umbridge being destroyed, but I thought 5 is more angsty!Harry than 6. It's in 5 that he's all upset about Dumbledore not paying attention to him, and that he gets all fluttery for Cho Chang. 5 seemed more filler to me; of course the prophesy is important, but then I was just as interested by Voldemort's childhood. Somehow I understand that 6 was disappointing because the end is rubbish, and it closes a lot of doors plot-wise for ff, but in terms of quality, I see a much bigger gap between 4 and 5 than 5 and 6.
     
  4. Sarah

    Sarah Daddy Issues

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    I count everything including that piece of shit epilogue as canon. I don't however consider that interview bullshit Rowling comes up with as canon. If its not in the books it didn't happen EoS.
     
  5. Xiph0

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    Then you don't really agree with me, since I count 6 & 7. I also highly recommend 7, because it reminded me a lot of the first few books and I got nostalgic reading it. People bitch and moan about it primarily because of the last page or two, but if it bugs you that much, skip it. The other couple hundred pages are awesome.
     
  6. Anlun

    Anlun Denarii Host

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    I'll actually take anything that isn't overly retarded. I believe books 1-7 are canon, and I believe some of her earlier interviews, where she answered questions about the book. What I won't take are shit she has added that contribute nothing to the story and/or deter from reading. An example is Dumbledore's sexual orientation.
     
  7. FollowTheReaper

    FollowTheReaper Professor

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    You do understand what the slut fangirls in the Mugglenet community are going to be doing with the "prequel"? Prepare for an avalanche of shitty fanfiction again... Especially Sirius/James slash, hehe...
     
  8. BrewBreaker

    BrewBreaker First Year

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    That's all that's awesome, those couple hundred. The other 500 blow.
     
  9. Xiph0

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  10. Durden's Wrath

    Durden's Wrath Second Year

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    Because he was in Gryffindor. That house is the one most likely to aim you towards mediocrity. Nowhere does courage lead to intelligence, or hard work. Merely rushing in where fools fear to tread. Harry would have been much better off in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff. And definately with another best friend. Ron was shit.

    That said, I only consider books 1-4 canon. There was too much horseshit for me to swallow in Book 5. The very least amongst which is the sessions with Snape (I mean who would seriously let this fucker teach children), and the wankery that 6 schoolchildren can accomplish what they did at the end.

    HBP, with the chest monster, and Dumbledore's complete lack of training given to Harry was bad enough. But then a good (possibly even great) character like Hermione is ruined... for the sake of the gingers.

    DH is just shit mainly because Harry dumbasses around the entire book, lets himself get killed, and wins in the most anti-climatic battle against evil ever.
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2008
  11. Mirkwood

    Mirkwood Seventh Year

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    Thats the bit that he isn't pissing around in forests and snacking with some uber enchanted bag with books, tents, and a strap-on-dildo for Hermione to use to fuck Harry in the ass.

    The only good bit was the Dumbledore backstory with Grindlewald, I thought that was quite cool, but having his sister as a magical retard was quite harsh.
     
  12. Blah-the-Sixth

    Blah-the-Sixth First Year

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    Books 1-5 for me. Anything written under the influence of every illegal narcotic doesn't count.
     
  13. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    1-5. I hated six with a passion but when you take into consideration just how fucking terrible book 6 was then 6 isnt all that bad. Sure Harry wins because hes gets the hallows not because he was special or tried to be his best. Sure, he ends up with the most useless character ever written in the series. Sure people die. Sure Hermoine is still mrs. uber gotta have my way because I have read every book known to wizarding kind.

    But 6 is by far the lowest point in the entire series. I can stand DH I would shit on HBP because I would feel bad for the shit.
     
  14. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I cant help but think a lot of people don't like 6 & 7 because many of us started reading ff after OotP, and that (somehow) raised expectations. GoF is still the best of the series.
     
  15. Seratin

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    Books one 1-6 along with the two comic relief books are canon. End of. I don't care how much you dislike HBP or DH, they're still canon.

    You're a pretentious cock.
     
  16. Aurion

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    You're likely right.
     
  17. FollowTheReaper

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    Well, the potential for Über!Harry jumped sky-high after OotP, he had a cause, he had the prophecy backing him up, and he should have noticed he was a pussy when they got their asses kicked at every turn...
     
  18. maidros

    maidros Fourth Year

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    The books, as long as they don't contradict each other. In which case, I choose to take whichever `canon' I prefer. Nothing outside the seven books is canon, as far as I am concerned.
     
  19. Durden's Wrath

    Durden's Wrath Second Year

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    Blame Voldemort all you want, Harry in the end WAS responsible for Sirius's death, and should have done something about the root cause of WHY he was responsible in the 6th book. But instead, Harry has a chest monster, and spends all of one paragraph grieving over his godfather.

    There was so much potential for Harry after GoF, and OotP, and I don't care what the epilogue says, Harry most likely would have made a shit Auror.

    Canon only truely counts, when you have a belief in the author, that they truely knew what they were doing when they added to the standing canon. For instance, the Prequels NEVER. HAPPENED.

    And Voldemort's demise. Let's just say that the ending that Vincent Ludwig in the Naked Gun, was better than what Voldemort got to have.
     
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  20. oephyx

    oephyx Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I agree with the potential thing, but for me Harry had as much potential after GoF than OotP. In GoF he learns some nice spells and fights off Voldemort (even if he didn't do much, he managed alone), whereas in OotP he spends his time being generally upset and learning no magic, and ends up needing to be rescued by Dumbledore. The whole thing is only saved by the prophecy.
     
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