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Will Hermione become the least capable witch among three?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by walpe, Feb 21, 2023.

  1. walpe

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    Except for The Auror series, Steelbadger's crossover fanfics, and Republic's Contractual Invalidation, there are few good post-war fanfics... so after reading those, I started imagining what will the trio be like post-war, as an adult (I can't accept HG becoming Minister, but three hero's respectable job choice seems reasonable...).

    Will Hermione become the least competent in magic among the three in the future?


    Harry Potter: Destined to be an Auror and constantly fight the Dark Wizards. He will deal with magic that normal people would never encounter, let alone read. He will be forced to learn/deal with a lot of magic from a wide variety of fields.

    Ron Weasley: Working with George will make him gain experience by conducting various magical experiments. Considering there are things like Daydream Charm, love potions, and basic wizard toys, Ron is in a situation where he has to re-study virtually everything professors teach at Hogwarts and become competent enough to use them creatively. Considering that Ron shows considerable enthusiasm for his favorite fields (chess, quidditch, etc.), it is not unreasonable to think that he will be enthusiastic about various projects of the joke shop... maybe a prankster friend would have made a better influence on his grade than Hermione?

    Hermione Granger: She will work in the Ministry of Magic with high probability. She will become a paper pusher, using very limited types of magic repeatedly. She will read and memorize regulations and work rigorously with a passion she showed to gain her grade, leaving little room for time to learn any new spells or theories. Considering she did not show any creativity or real passion for exploring magic itself, she is the least likely person to develop magical skills after the war.


    It looks like Hermione will be the most magically behind in a decade after the war, what do you think?


    Also, Ironically and realistically, she will be socially least successful. Ron's monetary income will surpass her salary as a government worker, and Auror's position seems quite respected or prestigious position. Maybe Hermione's work ethic will be appreciated by co-workers but she distinctively lacks any leadership traits to gain actual respect.
     
  2. darklordmike

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    Most of this is plausible enough, if you assume the characters' personalities don't evolve much, and that Hermione cares about rules and regulations more than actual results. She might become absolutely ruthless as a politician/administrator. (Remember, she set Snape on fire for Harry as an 11-year-old).

    I don't have more to add, except to say that you should read Arsinoe de Blassenville's 'The Golden Age.' It's in the library. It's an extremely acerbic take on what might happen after the war. Some of it is completely ridiculous imo--especially what becomes of the Malfoys--but it's a good exploration of the post-war psychology of Ron, Harry, and Hermione when they achieve real power.
     
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    Who hurt you?
     
  4. walpe

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    Maybe let's shit on Hermione thread...
     
  5. darklordmike

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    Then I refer you to my post in that thread, which I stand by:
     
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    I realise many don't count Cursed Child as canon, but by the time of the main action in that, Hermione is Minister for Magic, literally running Magical Britain.
     
  7. TheWiseTomato

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    I was replying to you.
     
  8. Lindsey

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    They will all be capable in their own right.

    Harry with his badass Auror skills, Ron with people and creative solutions and Hermione with the Ministry and laws. They would be a force to be reckoned with.

    This makes me want to see a post-hogwarts fic that features the trio and their friendship, and how they dominate everything. None of them will be the next Albus Dumbledore, but together they will even surpass even him.
     
  9. Perspicacity

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    Setting aside JKR's statements about Hermione's life after the series, canon Hermione had passion and magical talent, along with a ruthless pragmatic streak. She was driven to learn magic throughout her time at Hogwarts, shown unambiguously throughout the text. She was reading thick-assed magical tomes as "light reading" as a 12 year old and inventing her own spells by 5th year. And she cared enough about continuing her knowledge of magic that she returned to Hogwarts for her NEWTS after the war.

    It's hard for me to believe that she wouldn't have continued to grow in magical skill and knowledge after the dust was settled and so many of their friends (particularly muggleborn friends) were put in the ground. While she may not have been the magical autodidact that Harry was (and who could hope to compare there?), she was certainly capable of sustained magical growth--even accounting for the fact that she merely went off to work for the premier magical institution in England with its own research arm and not the, ahem, intellectual hothouse that is a joke shop.
     
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    Hermione as a dumb rules-follower is fanon. She doesn't blindly follow all authority, she puts on a facade of following authority and might follow some rules more than others if she feels like it. Let's recount a few of the things Hermione did as a teenager:

    set Snape on fire on suspicion he was cursing Harry
    straight up lied to McGonagall about the troll incident to manipulate two boys into becoming her friends and it worked like an Imperius Curse
    followed Harry into the 3rd floor corridor, which Dumbledore explicitly forbade literally the first day she was at Hogwarts
    stole rare potions ingredients from Snape's office to brew Polyjuice to get into the Slytherin common room to interrogate Malfoy
    the whole business with illegally using a time machine she was given only to be able to take extra classes, and the illegal thing she used the time machine for was breaking an Azkaban convict out of Ministry custody
    kept Rita Skeeter in bug form in a fucking jar for weeks on end
    Dumbledore's Army was her idea
    bewitched McLaggen to make sure a boy she liked got on the quidditch team
    broke into Gringotts

    And this is just what we know from Harry's POV, who knows what shit she pulled that no one ever found out about. Hermione Granger is the biggest rebel in the story. Her magical ability should not even be a point of debate given how often she's shown using advanced magic (the limitless-space-purse, memory charms, Patronus Charm).
     
  11. Drachna

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    I can't imagine her ministry salary being lower than Ron's, especially given that Ron probably would be an employee and not a shareholder of WWW. Minister of Magic or not, she'd definitely be highly placed in the government, and senior civil servants/politicians are very well paid.

    As for her being left behind in terms of magic, I just can't see it. Harry would definitely be more specialised into defensive magic than her, but he already was. And there's no way that Ron would do much if any of the inventing for WWW. He'd probably do well as a salesman, but I doubt that he has much patience for research or product development.
     
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    Actually she will be the most powerful witch of the three, seeing as Harry and Ron are wizards.

    Hermione is ride or die as fuck and I'm tired of the slander.
     
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    You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
     
  14. Harpo the Fool

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    I liked her in "HP And The Girl Who Walked On Water". Harry and Ron are both Aurors and Hermione is Head Unspeakable. She is the most powerful of the three.

    The Sum Of Their Parts is another popular post-war fic. I liked it but Harry is the main character in it, and the most powerful. Hermione and Ron are supporting characters and I don't particularly remember one of them being more powerful than the other.
     
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    You forgot 'Punished a collaborator ala Lt. Aldo Raines'.
     
  16. Warlocke

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    Sound advice if I've ever heard it; well done. I'm with you.

    It didn't happen. I didn't see it happen. You can't prove to me that it did happen.

    Hermione's biggest problem is that she's a massive hypocrite. Although being unable to admit she's wrong, even in the face of tragedy, possibly comes a close second.

    HBP did sooo much damage to Hermione's character, in my eyes.

    Hermione probably has the ability to become good at any magic for which she can find sanctioned instructions.
     
  17. TheWiseTomato

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    Quick edit. Hermione didn't hesitate to curse her peers if they crossed her, she just didn't go up and do it outright. She let it be the consequences of their own actions - their own fault, you might say.
     
  18. Drachna

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    She also didn't hesitate to falsely imprison her enemies for months at a time.
     
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