Why would you think that?

:thinking:

 

It's 6am and I didn't sleep yet so bedtime for me.

But yeah barring some random shit going down whilst I'm away, gonna go re-read owner and Jari to start with. dC to follow, unless someone wants me to look at dC first or something.

 

Should we start claiming "not it" or something? Like, either "not UT" or "not UT or mal is <least interesting alignment here>"

Like, the way I see it we have these options:
- Request UT claim (and treat UT claims later as scum!UT if UT refuses to)
- Request UT claim iff mal's alignment is one of <list>
- Leave it up to the UT's judgment
- Not request UT claim

and I'm not sure which one works best? Kinda think I lean the third one actually, everything else seems like it has potentially shitty outcomes. (gutfeel is UT is dead or scum so I kinda think it's mostly pointless anyway, since I am guessing UT would have claimed by now. Like, scum!mal we want to know we hit, town!mal we want to know we were wrong b/c of how much worldbuilding currently assumes scum!mal)

 

I was in almost every 2010-2015 online hunt.

...... Like, period. I didn't play the GITP ones, I didn't play on here, and I think that's it! If I wasn't playing, I was spectating, so saying that "I was involved in almost every online Witchhunt for five years" isn't really a stretch to say.

I know what someone softclaiming looks like.



dichotomousCreator

Not yet.

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Also, because you're here and I decided to go find it....

http://forum.chocolatepi.net/showthread.php?tid=396&pid=78917#pid78917

dC's first interaction with me in a hunt. (this is how we met.)

 

Alright, I guess there's not really a hurry yet anyway.

 

That is two and a half years old and highly out of date and also my first game ever so I had no idea what I was doing

I almost didn't want to read it out of embarrassment :V

 

That feel when the thread gets so long that automerge breaks down because even it can't read that many posts, and it's a robot.

 

BEEP BEEP MEATBAG POSTING RATE HAS REACHED EXCESSIVE LEVELS NUTS TO THIS

This is a bunch of lowercase text because uppercase text is needed for robot dialogue but we are not supposed to make allcaps posts.

 

Now I wanna find everyone else... but my first games with a lot of you were on MSPAF. Acio, definitely. Fonti and Vaimes, probably.

I guess... first game with Citrus would be on FS? Mal, too. That might work.

Also, Dersehunt observer chats are a good thing to post, in lieu of threads (rip).
Honestly never thought about just posting the quicktopics... :facepalm

 

In world 2, though, why do Angels ever put a save on Rubicon? Like, they get the info that Rubicon was Haunted. They know if Rubicon's shot at, it's going to be a role kill and he'll die whatever they do, so why do they put the protect on him? There's no upside.

Worlds 1 and 3 though have them essentially burning the IK for wine on Day 3, which is. Ehhhh. Unlikely, it feels like?

Maaaaaybe Angels could have been gambling on a Pagan activation?

World 3 is just... no. It leaves open the possibility that Rubicon lives, which is blatantly bad there.

Feel like I'm missing something here.

 

Read my post about it.

 

Unless I'm misreading, world 2 does not require Rubicon to be haunted.

 

True.

So in that world it's just as simple as, Haunts were whoever, Angels protected Rubicon, witches rolekilled Rubicon?

I can buy that, yeah.

 

Where did everyone go?

I'm bored.

 

See this is kinda why I didn't want to camp out for UT to say something. If they're dead/scum/choosing not to reveal, the thread kinda dies :v

 

We can talk about other things.

Directing the Hunter, for instance.

Good idea? Bad idea? I don't know current meta.

 

In theory yes, but a bunch of people basically said "stop talking about everything until UT is resolved"

In this case I imagine it'd be something like "the person to aim the Hunter at varies based on mal's alignment!"

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In terms of actually DOING it...I remember WH12 there was an exploit to do with them and protecting their target (and thus angels getting info back to the living). Is that patched, like Angels can't protect from Hunter shot or something?

Assuming it's not possible this time, I'm not sure what the meta is with it either. Directing this sort of thing is usually optimal, but at the same time that just turns it into a second lynch in which case we might as well make it "Hunter should shoot the second biggest wagon"

 

The thing about directing the Hunter shot is that we're not getting a Hunter /claim/, I'm assuming, since rolekill. Half the point of the shot getting directed is the person taking responsibility for it.

And yeah, dC, Angels protect against NK only, now.

Hm, this is actually a kind of potentially sticky, interesting situation. I was going to suggest a separate vote we'd informally take for who the Hunter would shoot, but it's potentially awkward in some worlds. Just off the top of my head, Agent Hunter and the vote goes onto their partner.

So if we did that, we'd have to leave room at the end of the day and potentially get claims, which is its own problem.

On the other hand, half the reason for having a set target is that it forces a potential witch Hunter to either shoot a town-directed target or scumfirm themselves. But since they're not claiming, uh, they'd just do that, probably?

Fuck this now I'm remembering the part of these setups that I hate



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Yeah I think if we're going to direct the shot we actually need a claim and eat the rolekill if the Hunter's town down the line.

If we're not going to direct the shot we can still talk about who we think the town Hunter should shoot but we just eat a free witch kill in witch!Hunter worlds and that's pretty shit.

Ehh.

I'll grant the rolekill makes things more fluid, Kai, it's really not helping with making these games not mechanical bullethell levels.

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Like, just holistically, counter the number of words that have been about mechanics today vs. behavioral analysis. It's not great.

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*count

/10char

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Plus, in witch!dC worlds he's just gobbling this shit up as cover, all day long.

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Can someone speak up if they have a Miner read they feel conviction about, one way or another? And either lay it our or link something.

 

Well, if Mal's town, the rolekill has already been used (more than likely?)

I guess there's a nonzero chance we're in world 3 and the witches want us to think it's world 2 so claims are safe...

 

Derpclear quintuple denied

Rolekill is not one-use like IK is, it's at will.

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Wait, I'm right about that, right?