Silver, tell me why owner is a wolf. Tell me why I'm wrong on her. You're a similar player, you vibe with this kind of mindset read. Where am I wrong?

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Jesus christ do you people realize I get an email every time I get @ mentioned?

I am clearly here, no need to blow me up.

 

Hold on. I asked you for a read on Owner first. Can you give a read on her without the EoD stuff before shifting the burden of proof to someone else now?

I want to see your read in a vacuum on her, I'd really appreciate you saying anything before pinging silver for his read on her

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Apologies for the multi-emails (if it makes you feel better, I've already past flooded email inbox with this game myself)

 

....

That's actually hilarious.

At this rate, Kai will never actually get to play his setup because everyone is always asking him for help and he's like "can a dude play in peace guys come on".

We can be in a four witch world where witches did not use illusion kill. Just... throwing that out there.

AND YES, THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT HUNTER PLANS.

(In before it was actually IK and this entire thread is wolfy because Hunter will never go off.)

... I think we need to sort our mechanics.

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I thought that was Spiritualist Plans, not Hunter Plans. Whoops.

Insert Fable's post about thread sanity here.

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Anyone else on team "Hunter Plans Are Bad, You Guys" or are we actually... going to...

I have a bad feeling about this.

I've had a bad feeling since the Mal lynch was able to achieve maj, tbh.

If we wake up toMorrow and the game immediately ends, remember me.

 

I think it's probably w/w. My scumread group is mal/Owner/Citrus/Fable/Jarizok at this point, obviously one of these at least is town but I think they're all at 50+% scum? Most likely exception to that is probably you, actually, since I don't think you've pinged me for some time. If I had to guess all five scum now it'd be tom/mal/Owner/Fable/Jarizok, at least.

It's kinda weird because I'm not confident in READS on mal/Owner but they just kind of fall into the PoE behind people who are actually making themselves useful.

Oh hang on yeah, this is a thing. Wait and did I fuck up my math I thought we were at 14 alive? (17 minus tom, dyachei...fuck I forgot Rubicon, yeah ok I did). Ok so two bonus kills would end the game early. Assasasin exists and could hit Fable if Fable is town and Assassin is scum...and if a town DOB hits another townie, yeah technically the game could end if the Hunter misses.

Unless the Hunter shoots Fable, in which case we are both less likely to cause something stupid to happen with the DOB and scum Assassin has to hit someone else if Fable is town.

...kinda leaning towards that, honestly.

RE: reads...okay, I'm starting to see why mal's alignment is pivotal for PoE rather than associations b/c if I start assuming town!mal then suddenly it's either exactly tom/Owner/Citrus/Fable/Jarizok or the PoE I have is wrong.

Bleh. I think the immediate game end is vanishingly unlikely, but at the same time I think maybe we should just aim the Hunter at Fable and fuck it.

 

Yeah, I can definitely give you a read on someone while discounting the thing I'm reading them on.

There is no "burden of proof." There's no /proof./ This is a guessing game. I think owner's EoD reads post was unlikely to come from a wolf, because it didn't read like she was trying to save herself, and it didn't read with an agenda.

She's town for essentially the same reason Wei is, with about the same level of like... care. Wei is thinking through the game. Owner's posting without an agenda and without kowtowing to things that she would think as a witch might save her.

If you're expecting an in-depth ISO on owner or anyone else for that matter I think you've really got the wrong idea about how invested in this particular game I am.

 

Wasn't asking for an iso, and the kowtowing point is useful (and something I'll ponder a bit now), so it was worth asking.

 

Obligatory "why have we always assumed Fable was trueclaiming" post, because right now is definitely the time for more wine.

 

Huh. Hunter pointing at Fable is. Huh.

Should we start taking votes for preferred hunter shot in general?

Actually, I like the idea of taking votes for preferred shot in general. What if we direct hunter to shoot someone and they don't, and demons blow their protection because they thought their witch would get shot. The lolz are real

 

Hunter shot: beruru is my vote.

 

Beruru you're being a little overly paranoid. If he fake-claimed as scum he needs to die anyways. I don't want to entertain fake-claimed-as-town worlds because he was pretty likely to get lynched there D1 and someone could have cc'd him. Other explanations are even more out there or -EV so we don't need to go there

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Did you have more than this on beruru elsewhere, or could you talk me through why you think beruru is a good shot?

~Shoot Fable~

HUNTER TALLY:
Beruru (1): Newcomb
Fable (1): Citrus

 

I guess my problem is I have leantown or null on too many people? Like, there's this list of {Kai, Vaimes, Newcomb, Silver, maaaybe Miner} that I consider more town than the "passive or active lurker plus a bit of scumminess" soup that is mal/Owner, so they end up out of the PoE as a result.

Yeah, that. Doubt he fakeclaims as town, and as scum we still want to shoot him :v

It is not bear season, poaching is prohibited.

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Pew Pew: Fable

 

Has the thought ever crossed your mind that, say, beruru's words and deeds seem to indicate that she's incredibly concerned with how she comes across to the thread?

 

Shoot Fable pls.

 

Can you clarify this a bit further? My brain's a bit fuzzy and I'm not positive I'm understanding the way you mean

 

I could still be sold on "don't shoot" though, I think? We should maybe even default to that if there's no solid consensus.

 

My current Role Plan Opinion Zone is:

If we do any Role Plans then Spiritualist Plan has to be first, imo.
This is because I really want to know if Hunter Plans is potentially/definitely gamethrowing... obviously.
If Mal is town, Hunter should never shoot period.
If Mal is scum, Hunter should shoot with discretion.

Town!Hunter should probably never shoot if we don't get a Spiritualist reveal.

I'm currently hoping that Hunter is dead, by the way.

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Okay, so "Fable is the Zealot who didn't get role-killed N1" is something we're treating as confirmed?

Also, one sec.

KaiDASH.

You.

 

HUNTER TALLY:
Fable (3): Citrus, dC, Vaimes
Beruru (1): Newcomb

Don't forget to keep this up-to-date if I'm not around to do so, because the mods aren't going to do them with vote-counts

 

Actually, I'm withdrawing my vote.

I think if I were the Hunter I'd shoot beruru, but on principle I'm not a fan of actually making it a formal vote here.

 

On principle it's -EV or like why?

 

Newcomb. I still want to know what the solution is where we're both town, because right now, for me, it's just PoE...