I think there literally has to be, if I'm correct about everything else.

Of course, overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

...

Luckily for us, if we fuck up here, death comes quite fast.
It might not be slow at all!

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Silver joins Vaimes and Miner in my "innocent until proven guilty" pile.

If it was top town vs. top scum, it would be rainbow... I think.

My list should be read:

These guys are town.
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One of these two is (any) Witch.
Leftovers get to be witches.

Do you want me to order it?

 

So just PoE or something?

If you're right it's one hundred percent Kai so. Kind of important.

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Well, maybe a hundred percent is a bit of an exaggeration but. I'd bet the game on it, at least.

 

It couldn't hurt, although it being out of order explains any niggles I had with it.

 

We're still lynching Owner toDay, I think. I guess if the Hunter really wants to shoot I would have to go with Fable (outed wolf survives far past out date has been a Hunt tradition for a long time) but I would still strongly urge a No Shoot.

... but I want to decide Kai vs Citrus now.

Can everyone like, weigh them and give reasons? Please please please.

 

Citrus cuz D1 shit, honestly. D1 shit is all I have on either Citrus OR Kai, and Kai's was less egregious.

My stance on Owner is meh I don't think it's the best odds but it's good enough odds I'm not gonna complain.

 

Minor confusion on my part when it was my own damn question while reading dC's answer means I have to clarify "pick the scum".

 

Did I miss anything besides mechspec?

 

You're a witch, give thoughts on Hunter Plans (I don't know if we're still doing this) and Spiritualist Plans (also don't know if we're still doing this), pick someone for the Hunter to shoot in the face, pick a witch out of Kai and Citrus, Fable is probably confirmed scum? I still don't get it, uh....

...

I think that's it?

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By the way, are we still doing Hunter/Spiritualist Plans?

Guys?

Discussion mysteriously stopped.

*looks at the time.*

Oh. That's why.

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Every time I wanna drink a ton of wine, I look at this readslist from Tom.

 

Citrus' D1 was bad where Kai's was good, but then Citrus has been trending up where Kai has been trending down for me. I'm more convinced of Citrus' towniness.

I think Mal was scum though, so tom/Owner/Mal/DC/Vaimes wouldn't leave room for either of them.

 

I'm ambivalent about Spiritualist (there's value in requesting them today and value in waiting, I think the important thing is making sure they DO get used) and would like the Hunter to shoot Fable. That's basically where I am at on mechanics.

 

Do you think Owner and Vaimes can be scum together?

 

I'm not a witch. I don't think Fable is a witch. I think Spiritualist can wait a day since Owner is a good lynch whatever Acio/Mal was and we'll have a better overview of Spiritualist options tomorrow if there's going to be two kills tonight. Hunter activation is... I don't know. I think I prefer the hunter uses their best judgement, but if it were up to me I'd shoot DC.

 

Hey beru do you see why it's a problem if you want people to decide today but not actually take action til tomorrow?

Spoiler

Rhetorical question because I know you know better than this.

 

I've seen some things from Owner that have shaken my faith in the Vaimes scumread a bit. There's 2 scum teams though, and bussing is a thing, so I'm not ready to give the Vaimes scumread up yet.

 

I'm not deciding anything for the thread, here, I just want to like... I literally can't think of the answer to you vs. Citrus so I'm getting help from outside my brain?

It's "I want to decide" not "I want to decide for you".

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There aren't two scumteams.

Scum is divided into two chats. One group knows the other (with two decoys added), but not vice versa.

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Current Votal Is The Same As The Last One, But I Want It On This Page:

vaimes (1): fable (#2798)
beruru (1): miner (#3075)
citrus (1): kaiDASH (#3079)
jarizok (4): dichotomousCreator (#2918), owner (#3102), newcomb (#3106), vaimes (#3172)
owner (5): citrus (#2759), silvercrys (#2791), jarizok (#3132), weiyaoli (#3155), his fluffiness (#3174)

Abstaining (1): beruru (#2756)

7 soft things and 10 hard ones.

 

I went to see what fable posted today and now I'm at 100% hunter shoots fable.

Newcomb's owner read is both too strong and too weak to be buddies and too strange to be w/v, it's like dc's read on me in rwby - "I think this person is town probably, but this isn't a hill I want to die on so if you're gonna lynch them, go do that but I disagree". I think he'd either go more for the townread/hard align (though admittedly, owner isn't helping herself here) or engage turbo on the bus as buddies. If it's Newcomb w / Owner v, this read and the entire play is kind of aimless? Newcomb doesn't actually get anything from the existence of this read & related posts, so it's difficult to see him making them. Overall this feels like a real, if weird, read and I rate him a lot more town for having it and playing it the way he has.

Right now this is where I'm at (no order within groups):

dichotomousCreator
silver
Wei
his fluffiness

Newcomb
Beruru
Jarizok

Citrus
Miner
Vaimes

Owner
Fable

It's awful, I'm cooling off my Citrus read for the 2nd time. I can't even explain it because my brain* is telling me he should be scum, and my gut is like 'cut that out, hes town probably', so I'm splitting the difference and putting him in the middle.

* - my brain is clearly terrible at WH, because in the previous two games it's told me I should leeroy cobalt (would have resulted in a loss) and dob fonti (did result in a loss) so I really don't even know.

help.

lynch owner

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beru what exactly is your fable read right now?

 

I still have a town Fable read, but given his posts yesterday and today I'm not going to fight for the Hunter to not shoot him.

Like I'm probably going to be super paranoid about Fable either way tomorrow.

owner and dC re-read coming in 7 hours or so when I finish work.

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But quick thoughts - I think owner's random sniping at me makes no sense.

Her questions about my mal/kai/beru conclusions were barely above busywork in how pointless/random it was.

And her OMGUS FoS was weird too. Firstly using a FoS there, and secondly for not reading my previous posts about her.

 

Time to go through the current votal with some cautious colouring:

vaimes (1): fable (#2798)
beruru (1): miner (#3075)
citrus (1): kaiDASH (#3079)
jarizok (4): dichotomousCreator (#2918), owner (#3102), newcomb (#3106), vaimes (#3172)
owner (5): citrus (#2759), silvercrys (#2791), jarizok (#3132), weiyaoli (#3155), his fluffiness (#3174)

Abstaining (1): beruru (#2756)

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Beru and the Townies
If something goes wrong, look here.
! Witch Zone !
Alignment can be contingent on the other, but they're probably town.
Another pair where alignment is contingent, but this time I'm not sure coalignment is possible.

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Miner - Please put your vote somewhere else.

Kai voting Citrus is definitely something.
I assume your vote is never going to move, Citrus?
Owner and Jari basically have to vote each other until the end, now...
I can't read either of Newcomb or Wei (as long as I take Newcomb at face value), fucking RIP.
Of course, Vaimes will always go back on Owner because lol, but his presence on the Jari wagon does make it look better just by virtue of his existence.
Owner wagon can be the bus zone. If Wei was a witch, I would honestly not be surprised. Do want him to be town, though.
dC and Fluff splitting the lynch fits... I think.

If there's people in my red/orange zone that aren't scum and there's no scum in Kai/Citrus for some godforsaken reason, it has to be in dC/Fluff, I guess? There's weird ass fucking universes where Kai and Citrus are both scum, but. Lmao. Not entertaining that shit, either.

If I want to switch a v/w pair, switching Miner and Jari might be interesting.

Right now, I would probably pick Kai as the last scum over Citrus, but that's... Kai has been super helpful mechanically, but... I've been in games where some guy knew about mechanical shit for pre-rand reasons and said answers that weren't strictly correct but nobody could call him on it because nobody else knew and Welcome to Wine World. I guess Citrus can still be scum, though? Augh. I gotta sort this out in the next.... eleven hours..... because I definitely DON'T want to be thinking about this around EoD.

(I almost posted this in shitpost form, but caught myself juuuust in time.)
(Bedtime!)

EDIT BEFORE POST: I was thinking too long, and now Kai voted for Owner.

Listen to the heart of the cards. I never listen to my brain. Manstincts all day every day.

My Fable read is: I guess dude has to be wolf?

... just realized that switching Miner and Jari gets me back to "Miner and Fable are LWs" and why the fuck does this game have to be like this?

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I have a new stupid question.

Does Fable usually act this way as caught scum?

It seems like he's been stuck in "oh, no, woe is me, I claimed and now everyone thinks I'm a witch" mode but I also know that he's a better player than that.

If Fable is town... Why are you acting like this? Also, if you're scum, why are you playing like this lmao is it really that bad.

Has anyone else seen Fable play like this before?

Fable was being like "this game is like one game in particular" but I haven't found the game where he acts like this (and he has... hundreds of games that I'm not gonna look through).

 

Hard Claim, Town Agent with Newcomb get your priorities straight.

Sorry Newcomb, I would have let you claim, but I'm not going to be around for the next 24 or so hours because of work. Good luck.

Town needs to get their priorities straight.

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And Cobalt and I didn't signal each other day 1 or anything ftr.

 

lol

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