Like the Hunter is obviously town here unless they forgot to switch on their brain last Night, so I'm curious as to why fluff thinks they're likely scum.

 

Either/Or.

Since neither were in the Hunter discussion.

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Why is the Hunter obviously town here?

 

Let fluff answer the question first.

 

I think the hunter's scum too? But I'll wait before proceeding unless Vaimes wants me to go before fluffiness

Also highly suspicious of dC

 

I think Miner and Silver were both town, and that there were several scummy people hunter could have killed if they were interested in town winning.

 

Miner and Silver were both obvious village, let's stop being stupid and move on.

Vote:Kai

 

Hunter shot ignores Angels. They could have killed one of the Agents for free, and didn't.

("But Angels have a ~special~ protect!" Yeah well they're not gonna gamble with it this early.)

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Citrus and dC are now free to share their valuations/comments.

 

If the hunter is a villager they're throwing worse than I did.

 

It's either bad villager or bad coven. vOv

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But given that the coven would have talked over both kills if the Hunter was scum, surely at least one of them would have known they could kill a townfirm?

 

Unless Hunter is a Little or two Elders are dead.

 

...everyone /does/ know the Hunter shot pierces Angel protection, right?

I think the only living person who wouldn't know is like, wei? Maybe?

 

Well bedtime for me since it's 3am. Just wanted to stay up to see what happened overnight.

What are people's cases on Kai again?

 

To be fair silver and miner were practically confirmed as well and they were actually talking. It makes sense if the objective was to try and kill activity.

 

Nah I know, I had a discussion with dC and Beru about this. I'm still not sure why you think it's town Hunter though. Why a bad villager over bad coven?

 

We could do with some reduced activity, tbcf.

 

newcomb and owner aren't really having a significant impact on the game, so I can see them being left alive in favor of people who are actually doing stuff.

Also holy hunting is a thing.

lynch fable

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There's no way the hunter didn't know it shoots through angels: we spent a bunch of posts talking about it yesterday.

 

There was a big mechanics talk about it. It's unlikely coven missed it.

Hunter is obviously scum because those targets are bad, as others have said. Like, I'm not even sure which town player thinks one of those two is the scummiest person in the game? Lack of townfirm kill is weird though...

Which brings me to my next point: Spiritualist usage. If we suspect one of the two NKs might be scum we could Spiritualist them (I think this is a huge waste), or failing that we can look into using it on Jari or mal for more lynch valuation (would prefer Jari since mal had like no interactions ever). Or we could just save it. Kinda leaning towards save it since Jari was probably just scum. (Related: PT should claim a flip if they have one, but not act otherwise)

Dead!Hunter/scum!PT is technically possible but highly unlikely since scum wouldn't know they're getting the kill and would probably just end up sad.

wait hang on

scum Inquisitor finds holy N2, chat-sharing scum Hunter shoots holy N3?

 

I can't really fathom leaving two confirmed villagers completely untouched on purpose if you have the means to 99% off one of them (not accounting for Survivalist and the like).

'Cause those are shots they're gonna have to take eventually, or they'll get boxed in.

And I don't think anyone forgot this mechanic, so ??? the shot didn't come from mafia?

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Maybe I'm underestimating how many people had a scumread on Silver?

I thought he was town, and I'm assuming he was the Hunter shot.

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I mean if witches think that killing one or both of Miner/Silver makes the game easier for them to win, what does that say about the scumteam?

 

I'm probably like the only person who had a scum read on Silver (and even then I didn't actually say so in the thread). It's pretty obvious he was wifom-ing that he was a holy role though so maybe scum just valued that over townfirm. Who knows?

 

beruru save me