Is everyone with me here that Kai claiming like that is villagery? Like, Kai was in no real danger here and there's no pressing reason to need Fable dead here since he's looking like PoE for a lot of people? There's not really a reason I can see here to claim as a witch unless it's just purely a grab at towncred which he'd spend and more if and when we got Fable's flip.

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@anyone

Without quoting her posts and using your own words, can someone translate the thrust of what beruru is saying in her last 20ish posts?

 

I have? Some of it was skim but I honestly have no idea where you're pulling this dichotomy from. Like...I think weiy is town? His play today reads more flustered than scummy? I don't see what excludes Citrus or Vaimes (or you or fluff, technically, but nah) from being the Hunter instead.

 

I agree that it's villagery, but it's just like... using his ability to force through a mislynch is :/.

There's no way that Fable would get lynched normally right now, so he's just trying to convince everyone beforehand that what he's already decided to do is the best course of action.

Assuming that Spiritualist is alive is also z. We're going to see that Fable is the Zealot from the successful Assassination, but it's not like we're going to learn that he's Town. That doesn't happen.

 

Ultra tl;dr, by PoE either weiy is exactly scum Hunter or me and fluff are the Little Coven. Also Fable is town?

There is more to it than that I'm pretty sure but yeah.

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We can ask for a Spiritualist claim and not assassinate Fable if we don't get one? I THOUGHT I said that before but maybe I only thought it...

 

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Earlier, I said you have an alibi, but not knowledge.

What does that mean to you? Like. Think about it.

 

Based on other stuff you've said too, it means my view of the gamestate is based on some misinformed assumption? Something that isn't just a misread?

If I knew what it was though, I presumably wouldn't have it.

 

beru your problem is you're in love with your worlds so much you can't actually consider anything else.

I know you said almost the same thing about me (wrt fable) but I'm willing to consider and engage people on that, but only you have and I disagree with your valuation on like, everything this game.

 

Except you haven't been doing this at all.

 

Both things, but misreading is... certainly something you are doing.

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Kai, find the what else. If I can't see something, then show me?

 

I don't care why you say you're town.

Citrus had like, 2 posts about it.

Beru is off in magical beru land where the game is solved.

And nobody else has said much of anything.

 

Magical Beru Land is 55% mechanics and 45% behaviour.

 

I mean by misread I mean mis-reading a player, so I guess add a third thing >_>

I'm assuming whatever it is I need to notice is not something you're willing to say out loud, but uh

that does go both ways

 

Like I said you haven't been doing that at all.

 

Oh, well, I mean both versions of misread.

 

beru is saying that the shots last night only make sense if one of the following is true:

1. Wei is the Elder Witch Hunter and anybody could be Little Witches.
2. Exactly DC and Fluff are the Little Witches, also Wei is still an Elder Witch.

 

By the way, do you understand why I think this?

I know you're like "Beru can't consider anything else", but... think about it.

 

I'm writing a longer post now on why she's wrong in assuming literally everything, but that's the tldr.

 

100% seems awful to do so as EW.

Only argument for LW is for the town!cred, but I think it'd be better to hold off and save it for surprise shot late-game as a LW too.

Also really don't think he was in danger of being lynched toDay, which would be the other argument in favor of a LW!Kai trying to save face with the claim

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I'm a little torn on Fable because of all the emotional appealing he's been doing, especially since late yesterDay into toDay.

I'm in favor of him being assassinated because he's in the PoE, but he wouldn't be my first choice if it was me picking and it was a straight up day!vig.

Then I'd pick dC

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So toDay ends in less than 24 hours. Is assassination being resolved tonight? Because it's going to be a very short interim period if it doesn't happen soon, unless we don't want it to happen.

Newcomb
owner

 

Ok so basically your everything is just a perfect storm of assumptions that I see no reason to be true and you're not backing up ANYTHING you're saying with reasons, proof, quotes or anything. You're just saying 'this is true because I say it is true' or 'if you had the knowledge I did, you would understand'.

In general:

- That 'only' Wei or DC+Fluff LW are killing the people who got killed yesterday.

Wei is hunter AND Jarizok + Tom coven buddies:

- Jarizok just flops when there's 4 witches alive and they have 2 kills that night. Neither Wei or Jari even make an attempt to do something else.

- Jarizok didn't claim Holy when faced with a lynch & Wei has realized that play - There's no way they're in chat d3 and decide the optimal line is "post about DC all day, then post that you aren't claiming, then go afk".

Wei isn't hunter AND Jarizok + Tom Coven buddies AND fluff + dc LW with hunter.

- Your explanation for N2 is that Coven used IK and wanted to guide the Hunter shot onto town, but Jarizok didn't actually do anything d3 (he mostly ineffectively posted about DC then fell over) and Wei didn't try to influence either. And more generally, using IK just to give town an extra kill is ???

- Why is it necessarily fluff + dc LW (and not fable, or other people, whatever)

- Why it is necessarily Wei Elder.

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You keep on saying that everyone needs to prove to you why you're wrong but you've provided no reasons for anything you're saying - you've just asserted a bunch of things and are maintaining that they're all true and you're right. Actually the reverse is true: You need to prove to us you're right; WITHOUT using a circular argument.

You're saying 'Wei is a Witch because he is the Witch Hunter, and only Wei as the Witch Hunter would have made the kills that were made last night' which is circular and not actually an argument.

If someone went through your posts today and changed out every instance of Wei for literally any other player, your posts would still apply to them equally well because nothing you've said applies exclusively to Wei.

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Newcomb: That's the secret, there is no y tho.