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Witch Hunt #9 Halftime Edition

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Jan, Jul 10, 2017.

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  1. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Was more interested in how people OTHER than tom reacted to that.

    At least, that was the plan before Miner's continued scrutiny kinda ruined it (not mad b/c that's why I'm townreading Miner now)

    I just posted a big wall thing which should outline my reads on those people. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to comment on a read like that. "Vaimes doesn't feel that way to me"? That should be evident from my slight townread on him. I don't feel the need to restate my reads like one page after I made them, and there's not really much about a feels read to point to and address directly.
     
  2. owner

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    I've unfortunately skimmed most of Beruru's posts sort of same with Cobalt. Hope he comes back or gets replaced so we can read him better.
    Fable, I think I'm back and forth on. The way he described my play with regards to activity makes me start to question his alignment, as the read itself was said without doubt. Scum tend to be calmer and more sure of things, in my experience. He has been town reading me at times, but he could be trying to pocket me if he's scum. I'm not confident enough to lynch him today though. But he is kind of on my radar. Like his initial reading me scum and voting for me, he has mentioned things about my play, which I consider more NAI than one alignment over the other. And he did mention that my activity was making him or destroying the previous thoughts about my alignment.

    But I guess now I'm wondering if that was too easy in the sense that he was trying to fake that kind of solving the game in front of me.

    Like town!Fable would maybe not so easily change his notions or read about me. Or that's what I'm pondering at the moment.
     
  3. Miner

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    owner Id really like you to answer my question from 1164.

    Thanks :)
     
  4. Delphine

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    Beru [5]: Miner, Tom, Jari, Rubicon, Fable.
    Tom [3]: Fluff, Kai, Wei.
    Citrus [2]: Vaimes, DC.
    Fable [2]: Acio, Dyachei.
    Jari [1]: Cobalt.
    Vaimes [1]: Citrus.
    Weiyaoli [1]: Beruru.
    DichotomousCreator [1]: Owner.

    Not Voting [1]: Jwlk.


    Deadline is at Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 4:00:00 am (GMT+1)

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    With 17 votes alive, it will be 9 votes to soft lynch and 13 votes to hard lynch.
     
  5. owner

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    I'm still looking for a specific quote from Acio in order to answer said question. So I can show you versus tell you about it, I need a short break now.

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    Wow, both tom (scum) and fable (leaning scum/null) are voting for berry. hmm (or that's my current read of each of them)
     
  6. Fable

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    Read my ISO of Beruru kthx.
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I notice that none of the people who have played with beru before are currently voting her.

    I could see this being accurate.
     
  8. Miner

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    Are you saying that you think we're wrong? Also, who has played with beru before?
     
  9. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Acio, DC, Kai are the ones I'm thinking of... People from FS.
     
  10. Fable

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    So Acio,

    I think my problem with acio's early game and why I think he's lacking is he's asking a lot questions but not giving any thoughts so it comes across as busy work and being a bit frozen. The citrus vote in 452 seems a bit opportunistic partly because of the aforementioned problem of acio not giving any thoughts so there's no build up to it. 504 gives some explanation for this but I don't know how playing worse than he did in that game fixes the problem so it's just really ??? to me. Says citrus isn't wrong on dya in 527 when he's voting for him?

    Naked vote in 616 is bad and we start the garbage argument of "you can't meta read someone after only playing with them once" I've explained why this argument is bad so I won't repeat it. Also reading that over Acionyx really needs to read how I played d1 of WH8. Voye on me in 708 is super weak also by this point his theory on me being a wolf is kind of destroyed because it involved one of kai/beruru/dC being teamed with me but he's V reading all of them so ???. We get to a wolf read on beruru which we know flips into a V read, not sure what to make of that. 941convinces me that acio didn't bother reading me at all in RWBY, I don't fake dumb tells as a wolf meanwhile jari did accuse me of faking dumb tells in WH8 ( he was a witch that game fwiw) so this does not help my impresion of acio at all. Overall I find acio's play surface level, inconsistent, and one dimensional.
     
  11. Citrus

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    Technically I can be sorta counted also

    Vaimes selective quoting time!
     
  12. Fable

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    Out of curiosity do you have any preconceptions of my village play or my wolf play?
     
  13. Citrus

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    Word noted, thanks! So your vote is currently kinda lonely on dC...what're you thinking in terms of consolidation right now?

    Vaimes
    Another question to add to the list - what're your thoughts on consolidating on the current wagons? Because unless you make a proper push in the very near future on me, your vote is pretty useless right now

    I could say something similar wrt @diotomaceouscreator. I was actually really looking forward to playing with you when I saw you in the list after I got my role PM actually, because I think my only other game with you was when I was scum and you slowly took me apart piece by piece (second half of this paragraph is probably more of an early D1 thought, but whatever)

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    The heart attack when you're partway through compiling quotes and you accidentally close your browser but it's all still there when you reopen it

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    Every post from Vaimes starting with the first quoted one through the present. Spoiler'd the filler/emptier ones (but they're there for completion's sake)

    Starting here because it's where his activity (understandably re: the above post) drops.

    Note that this is just after the exchange between me and dyachei.

    His vote's on Tom as of this post (and the prior one, as this is directly the next one).

    Pushing Tom, doesn't really say enough substantial stuff to really get votes on Tom


    First big read-wall. Notably excluding anything on me. Continues to say Tom's a witch, some ?lean-below-null? reads, and a townread on Rubicon

    Bringing up that Cobalt hasn't posted at all


    Hm, I didn't remember this post. I guess he skipped over all my posts + the exchange with dyachei up to that time, which explains a bit more why he didn't have a read on me at that point?

    Didn't like this because of how empty (no reasons) of a vote it was

    Dismay at Tom not getting wagon'd, but also didn't really make a good case for it so ???


    ??? switches to Tom ???

    Except that's kinda what I did (asked for reasoning on why)

    Forgot this happened, strongly feeling an unaligned Tom/Vaimes

    Some arguments leaning towards scum!Vaimes:
    The enthusiasm wrt saying I'm scum seems a bit trumped up to me. Also he hasn't really cased/pushed anyone too hard so far. It's basically a giant wash of "Tom's scum, Tom's scum, Tom's scum" which transformed into fighting with me and "Citrus is scum, kill Citrus, Citrus is scum". Also, a massive amount of deflection on giving a solid read on the exchange between me and dyachei; which eventually became "I didn't think Citrus was scum I just tossed my vote on him" and then he uses the exchange we had after his vote as all his justification for scum-reading me

    Some arguments against it are that he's been relatively V/LA which can make some of the above make more sense in context. And also that I didn't realize he specifically had avoided deep-reading my posts, when I thought he had and without mentioning it at all in his read-wall decided I'd be a decent mislynch.

    With all the above in mind + his thread presence + V/LA I think I'd put him at a weak lean-scum right now. Anyone else got any thoughts on the above?

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    If there's not some solid vote movement onto Vaimes by the time I wake up in the morning, I'll probably move to consolidate, so if anyone else is thinking of joining now would be the time

    I don't particularly like the current wagons. I think I would've said Fable >> Beruru > Tom, but that was before the weird self-vote push thing and I've been very confused about Fable since

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    Who Posted?
    Total Posts: 1,193
    User Name Posts
    Miner 183
    tom 125
    Jarizok 101
    dyachei 99
    Fable 95
    dichotomousCreator 91
    owner 77
    Rubicon 75
    Vaimes 74
    KaiDASH 63
    Citrus 62
    Acionyx 40
    Beruru 33
    his fluffiness 32
    weiyaoli 29
    Cobalt 5

    It's pretty clear there's noone around to talk to seeing as I've auto-merged for the last 30 minutes now, so I guess I'll see what's here in the morning
     
  14. Vaimes

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    >implying I can be mislynched

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    Like I don't know what imaginary universe you're living in where you wake up and there's a wagon on me.

    Sorry I'm not sober and should probably go to bed.
     
  15. Miner

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    Fable I'm putting off til later. I just want to resolve beru/Acio right now.

    Unless someone wants to sell me tom.
     
  16. Vaimes

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    Also why on earth would I, as scum, move to lynch you over tom when 1) you were townreading me, and 2) you're more likely to survive over tom in a vacuum and thus be in a position to continuously defend me?

    "herp derp let's lynch the guy defending me" said no scum!Vaimes ever.
     
  17. Miner

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    and by sell I mean tell me why he's better than acio/beru
     
  18. Jarizok

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    Meh, if there ever was such a time, this is not it. Our current alteenatives (Beru, Acio) are much preferrable.

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    Lol. Like you ever need selling on tom.
     
  19. Miner

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    Oh also Citrus

    I don't think I can objectively read Vaimes right now, so..
     
  20. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    You can do whatever you want.

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    Also nothing is truly objective.
     
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