Say there is a snowvon + 1 scumteam. I get lynched, the person i shoot turns out to be town. klackerz gets nk'd. Snowvon now needs to be lynched twice and it's lylo after that, assuming no nk's bounce. If snowvon is scum and we don't kill him when we have the judge alive it gets really hard for us to win.

 

you hit snow then? we lynch him tommorow? we have double portect still?

we arent getting anywhere without titus, so lets move on to somethine we might be able to spec on: atum

what you think. could he be scum?

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i asked about DOB and it does reveal alignments if done via lynch btw. thinkof it like a judge they said

 

I don't see any reason a scum inquisitor ever checks poly. So town.

 

"Gravedigger - At the start of each night, you learn the cards of anyone who died that day."
Yes.

 

scum jester? check trick?

take out his actions and more into his posts. what you think of those at least.

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also if a newbie gets a pwerful role (the holys) how do you think they will act?

i would act much diffrently

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aslo look back to day one where you suspected him, how come you make 180 just becasue of his action?

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we need to look past just who does actions and their actual contents

 

How does info trick, which we know wasn't used, make a scum inquisitor check poly. The only reason to do that is if he misunderstood his role like he said he did, scum don't do that because they have teammates to discuss their checks with.

Newbie holies usually lurk

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His early posts were lurky, which is why I put pressure on him. His later posts, day 2 in particular, were towny.

 

-.-

theres now getting though to you appaently, maybe titus or someone else can show you MPOV

titus: atum, go.

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im gonna do an updated vote count later. maybe then you will see how he is prob scum

 

You haven't even shown me what you think of him?

 

Vote Count 4.1
5 to lynch, 7 super majority, 9 alive
No Lynch ( 2 ) - Titus, Lucky Lee
Snowvon ( 1 )- Bill Door
Bill Door ( 2 ) - ika, Snowvon
Abstain( 4 ) - Lyrium, Atum, klackerz, Riley Poole

 

i think hes scum obviously after thinking about it.

Look at it, all of us who have been active has been criss-corssing each other suspecting one another, ect, ect.

When has atum followed up on his questions? When has he given a read list?

He could just be sleeper scum trying to lurk it out b/c he knows we are all going at each other atm. Thats what i would do as scum at least, hide it out b/c everone is at each ohter.

Again, im now looking past actions and looking at facts, who has been doing what, and what matchs up with what i expect from players.

Im going to put you on back burner atm and go where we should prob be looking

vote atum

enough of letting us try to solve the game atum, give imput or something. What you think? me and titus may bbe trying to solve game but it doesnt give you an excuse to just hide around

 

tbf, the same could be said for Snowvon for all of D2 and 3 and even klackerz and riley to some extent.

 

ok we look into snow as well, but lets assume hes witch, we still have judge, angle cards, ect to counter that.

klack and riley are conf!towns so that moot.

snow always post fluff as well, there is also a post that make me think hes unaligned with cirtus

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this one, it could see it either way overall but it seems more carefree and unaware that he was indeed a witch.

if i was scum with cirtus i prob would of approached that diffrently. woulnt you?

 

That post was a half joke vote super early day 1. I can totally see that coming from people who are knowingly aligned. That joking/not really joking tone in "you're probably a silly witch".

 

Ika, before I consider your plan...answer this...

If Bill and Snowvon (by fluke) are town, would you be 100% certain as to who scum was? I wouldn't be. So I can't go slong with snything but lynching Von.

 

Titus, there is no 100% certainty, barring modfirms and death flips. Manipulation, lying, bluffing and so on are things in this game. Odds are, if the answer is suuuper obvious, it's probably too good to be true. The fact that you're so hellbent on a glaringly obvious distraction!wagon makes me think you're scum, because I'd like to think you'd be more than willing to logic your way through the other possibilities.

 

This is in no way a scumslip.

I don't get why you wanted me to respond to this?? This is post 444.

Back at computer. Obviously.

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Snowvon, I am thinking through other possibilities. However, my standard for lynching you is much lower given that klackerz will be dead tonight.

If we do ika's plan, lynch Bill Door (town), he shoots you (assuming town for argument), then we are left with 5 alive at daybreak.

With two scum and no extra lives, that is an auto town loss.

I can't see how we can NOT lynch you if there is any doubt as to your town status.

 

Vote Count 2.2 (#1480)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

KaiDASH (5): Titus, Riley Poole, Snowvon, Atum, Bill Door
Rubicon (4): KaiDASH, fontisian, Polysemous, blab
fontisian (3): Rubicon, Citrus, ika
Luckylee (1): Luckylee
Atum (1): klackerz

Abstain (1): Lyrium

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Vote Count 2.1 (#1256)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Rubicon (4): KaiDASH, fontisian, Snowvon, Polysemous
fontisian (2): Rubicon, Citrus
Luckylee (2): Bill Door, Luckylee
KaiDASH (2): blab, Titus
Atum (1): klackerz
klackerz (1): Atum
ika (1): ika

Abstain (2): Riley Poole, Lyrium
------------------------------------

Vote Count 2.0 (#822)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

fontisian (4): Titus, KaiDASH, Luckylee, Rubicon
KaiDASH (4): fontisian, blab, Lyrium, Snowvon
Atum (2): klackerz, Polysemous
Luckylee (2): Citrus, Bill Door
Titus (1): ika
klackerz (1): Atum

Abstain (1): Riley Poole
-------------------------------
Vote Count 1.9 (#678)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

fontisian (5): Titus, KaiDASH, ika, Bill Door, Luckylee
Atum (3): klackerz, Polysemous, Snowvon
KaiDASH (2): fontisian, blab
Luckylee (1): Citrus
klackerz (1): Rubicon
Riley Poole (1): Lyrium

Abstain (2): Atum, Riley Poole
-----------------------------------
Vote Count 1.8 (#590)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Atum (4): Bill Door, klackerz, Polysemous, Snowvon
fontisian (3): Titus, KaiDASH, ika
KaiDASH (2): fontisian, blab
Luckylee (1): Citrus
klackerz (1): Rubicon
Riley Pooel (1): Lyrium

Abstain (2): Atum, Riley Poole
-------------------------------------
Vote Count 1.7 (#579)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

fontisian (3): Lyrium, Titus, KaiDASH
Atum (3): Bill Door, klackerz, Polysemous
KaiDASH (3): fontisian, blab, ika
Polysemous (1): Luckylee
Luckylee (1): Citrus
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Snowvon (1): Riley Poole
klackerz (1): Rubicon

Abstain (1): Atum
-----------------------------------
Vote Count 1.6 (#373)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Atum (5): Bill Door, Rubicon, klackerz, Vira, Polysemous
Polysemous (3): Titus, Luckylee, Atum
Vira (3): fontisian, blab, ika
Luckylee (1): Citrus
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Snowvon (1): Riley Poole
fontisian (1): Lyrium

Abstain (0): None
---------------------------------------

Vote Count 1.5 (#349)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Atum (5): Bill Door, Rubicon, klackerz, Vira, Polysemous
Polysemous (4): Titus, Luckylee, ika, Atum
Titus (1): blab
Luckylee (1): Citrus
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Vira (1): fontisian
Snowvon (1): Riley Poole
fontisian (1): Lyrium

Abstain (0): None

---------------------------------------
Vote Count 1.4 (#276)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Atum (4): Bill Door, Rubicon, klackerz, Vira
Polysemous (3): Titus, Luckylee, ika
Titus (2): blab, Polysemous
Luckylee (1): Citrus
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Vira (1): fontisian
Snowvon (1): Riley Poole

Abstain (2): Atum, Lyrium
--------------------------------
Vote Count 1.3 (#246)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Polysemous (3): Titus, Luckylee, ika
Atum (2): Bill Door, Rubicon
Titus (2): blab, Polysemous
Luckylee (1): Citrus
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Vira (1): fontisian
Snowvon (1): Riley Poole

Abstain (4): klackerz, Vira, Atum, Lyrium
------------------------------------
Vote Count 1.2 (#156)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Luckylee (2): fontisian, Citrus
Riley Poole (1): Titus
ika (1): ika
Titus (1): blab
Lyrium (1): Rubicon
Citrus (1): Snowvon
Atum (1): Bill Door

Abstain (7): klackerz, Vira, Atum, Polysemous, Riley Poole, Lyrium, Luckylee
------------------------------------------

Vote Count 1.1 (#119)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

Riley Poole (1): Titus
ika (1): ika
Luckylee (1): fontisian
Titus (1): blab
Lyrium (1): Rubicon

Abstain (10): klackerz, Vira, Atum, Polysemous, Riley Poole, Lyrium, Luckylee, Citrus, blab, Snowvon

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TITUS WE HAVE THE FUCKING DEAD CARD TO USE! GET THAT THOUGH YOUR HEAD OR TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION!

Now look into atum. ignore my primary plant of bill door. Really your starting to grit me by this

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titus we have double protect, we have bypass. lets ignore the bill door idea

we lynch atum. they do single kill what then? even if they hit clakcs (witch they cant) we have DOB/lynch to get him then.

even on double kill we have enough

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as long as they can only (or try to) continue to do single hits. we can wifom all heals to our advantage

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everyone look at atum train and how it got pulled over early day, why didnt scums just push that over edge?

 

ika, I'm beginning to doubt you as well. I am wondering why so much resistance to Snowvon when he isn't providing nearly as much content.

As for Atum, there is the possibility of Atum being scum but I don't care for it that much. A poly check from Atum makes no sense whatsoever. Given (if we suppose Lyrium town) that Poly was town, Atum and Poly couldn't have goosed that up.

Let's suppose info trick was used, then most likely Lyrium is autoscum with Atum. Blab checked Citrus and got a guilty. His result would have been innocent if Citrus was a scumfuck with infotrick. Either that, or you're scum with Atum who is hiding the fact that scum played shenanigans on Citrus.

If we are supposing Lyrium town, then Atum is likely town as well as Rubicon helped the Atum wagon for quite awhile when it looked like it was a viable option.

*shrug* It is theoretically possible I guess but I don't care for it.

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I'm not 100% sure who the scums are if Bill Door and Snowvon are both town. If we lynch them, like you are proposing...

That leaves 5p lylo (assuming two scum): Atum, ika, Luckylee, Lyrium, Titus

If Luckylee is scum, he must be lynched last (as he would give his buddy his vest upon death).

That leaves a 4 player lynch pool. Supposing we lynch scum

3 v 1 at night. Scum declare Player X to be unkillable...notify the last remaining scumfuck. Angels know this as well.

Angels have two protects...if the angels protect scum, then it's GG game over, scums win.

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This whole thing makes me think of the possibility ika is scum with Von...

 

The Angels are not going to protect scum because they know who is in the coven???

 

Where is that in the setup?