Is this really how witch Fluff reacts to me greening the mislynch of the day, by snapvoting his teammate?

Tom voted Fluff in the grand scheme of things also, even though he was fake pushing a Cobalt/Shadow world. I wanna move Fluff up the PoE because of this but I feel like everyone else has more compelling reasons to be higher.

I want it to just be as simple as me being right about Fluff since day one but it kinda doesn't make sense.

Pls advise.
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I mean, I'm down with yeeting you later to prevent last stand, but that seems to be an unpopular opinion.

 

I trust fonti's read on me.

Also, it's so gratifying seeing my rolereads be right.

 

Hey, Fluff.

What do you think about my Oracle gambit and my proposed Fanatic->Gambler->Survivalist plan before Newcomb claimed?

 

I think the Oracle gambit was a dumb idea that seems to have worked out for the better.

Not opposed to your plan, since witches had to know at least 2/3 of the defensive roles' locations.

 

I still want a Fanatic claim if it's not Manasi.

We can keep Survivalist in the dark if Manasi is Fanatic tbh. The only thing is that if Fanatic is not Manasi, Survivalist should claim if it's not Manasi because then Hunter is the last witch.
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Is there anything stopping Newcomb from being witch Gambler with Manasi who protected her from the Hunter kill last night?

The N1 kill could've been an intentional failed role kill because Newcomb only had even protection, and then he protected Manasi.

I mean it's just so much more simple for Newcomb to be the town odd Gambler who got shot N1 and that's what I wanna run with but I'm just sanity checking myself.
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Okay no, I'm gonna stop myself.

Witch Newcomb never does a ridiculous long con gambit over priest hunting, that's stupid and not realistic.
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Especially not when Witch Newcomb would've probably had a decent roleread on Font.
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So, Newcomb is a villager.

I would like everyone unclaimed on the list below to please claim either Fanatic, or Not Fanatic.

@his fluffiness
@Dels
@shadowlancerx
@KaiDASH
@M Plus 7

 

Not Fanatic.

I think I know who is though.

 

Modified for Newcomb's claim.

We are now either in 1.a or 2.a. I'd like to figure out which.

The only thing is that if we are in 1.a we do not need a Survivalist claim, because we wouldn't know whether or not that person was a witch for sure if Manasi was the Fanatic.

If Manasi was not the Fanatic, the Fanatic is killable because they were not priest checked and so their role is useless at this point so that means they should claim here so we can pin down Manasi's role. If Manasi is exactly Survivalist, we lose nothing from village equity because witches don't get a role kill. If Manasi is not the Survivalist, the Hunter is the last witch and we win.

Actually, even if we're in 1.a the Survivalist should claim, because Survivalist is someone in the PoE. If they have an extra life, we want to avoid a scenario like what happened with Vira a few hunts ago where the Survivalist is alive in F5 and we are forced to get rid of the extra life and go into MYLO instead of removing someone else from the PoE.
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I think so too, I just want them to claim.
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So, yeah, I want Fanatic to claim first, and if Manasi is or is not the Fanatic then the Survivalist claims will resolve the other slot.

We have four possible worlds here. In one, Hunter is a witch and is exposed by this, and we win. In another, we know Manasi is the Fanatic and can then have the PoE Survivalist claim to resolve their extra life, and read them for potential partnerships. Also, if Oracle is actually the role that the witches threw out, it's more likely that they kept an extra defense role, which lends credibility to a witch Survivalist. Having that person out in the open is the optimal play.

Also, if there is a village Oracle, claim because you are lock town for not CCing me. A witch will not claim Oracle at this point because it would put their last member of the team into scrutiny, even if they think they can get towncred for not having counterclaimed me.
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Sorry, I meant in two others we have the PoE Survivalist claim to resolve the extra life. One world is town Survivalist and one world is witch.

In the final world, Manasi is the Survivalist and the Hunter is most likely town, and can avoid claiming.

 

Well since Newcomb gave it an "enthusiastic" stamp of approval...

Spoiler

Not Fanatic.

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The role stuff is definitely over my head and I won't try to understand it, but I would like to understand why not leave Manasi alive? If the last witch is somehow not Shadow, we could potentially be letting them majorly catch up, right?

 

Yeah you're not wrong, I'm just like. Pretty done with the game.

Vote: shadow

 

I am actually open to leaving Manasi alive.

The general gist of what I got is that it's sort of not conducive to everyone being satisfied playing the game. It's not fun for an outed witch to just be in the game for several phases, especially when the game is built around dead players still contributing and strategizing. She's cut off from Tom and Jarizok, and pretty much just waiting around to die.

But I mean, do you wanna talk potential strats for keeping Manasi around? Because I'm open to it.

I would be open to leaving Manasi alive and keeping the Loose Cannon until numbers get thinner and then it'd be necessary for LC to pop on Manasi, removing the LC from the PoE and leaving me alive until endgame for DoB equity.

The only thing is, we have the most survivability for Last Stand at this point in the game, right now. If the witches will EVENTUALLY be killing 2 villagers per night (potentially), it would be better to do that now while we have the numbers to withstand that for a few phases, especially because our PoE is so small that I have no doubt the last witch would be caught in time before they "caught up".

So I'm kind of stuck in the middle and I see the benefits to both.

 

Hahahahahahahaha
Wow...oh cobalt, never change.

Huh, well I’m doing birthday stuff with my wife today but I’ll be around tomorrow.

I’m not fanatic.

 

You're still my pet townie and you're the last person on my list to resolve.

It just so happens that you're first on everyone else's. Sorry I guess? But I still wanna keep you alive.

:v

 

From my point of view, we have three possible worlds:

1. All info claims are true.
Scumteam is: Jarizok/tom/Manasi/???

2. Muzjik is lying.
Scumteam is: Muzjik/tom/Manasi/???

3. Umami is lying.
Scumteam is: Umami/Jarizok/MANASI/???

 

Like, Shadow's first two lines there feel villagery to me

Imagine being a villager and being frustrated at being consensus scum, being run up Day 2 and sure you're about to be lynched, then someone you think is the Oracle claims a green on you and saves your ass, and the thread slam dunks a witch.

You find out later that the Oracle lied but they were right about you so you can just laugh about it.

I feel like that's where he was with that post.
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Didn't we already confirm somehow that Muzjik wasn't lying?
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Like, I LITERALLY had a similar reaction as Shadow had just now in a mafia game a really, really long time ago.

I was about to be lynched on Day 2 and someone claimed lovers with me, saving my ass and lynching scum in the process. I knew for sure that person was town and just saving my ass and then when he outed that it was a lie, we all laughed in relief because he banked on me actually being a villager and it paid off.

Just like I banked on Shadow actually being a villager and Tom being a witch, and deciding the D2 lynch by greening Shadow paid off.

 

We know that one of Umami/Muzjik has to be telling the truth (no kill bounced off of fonti), and we know Muzjik didn't lie about Jari's role, but I don't think we know anything else.

 

@his fluffiness
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We know Muzjik didn't lie about Jari's role and we also know Jari was a witch, because if he were town he'd be 1/1 with Tom and Font would've tanked the shot.
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Oh, nvm.

Meh, I'm still pretty positive Jari was a witch. Not reconsidering that at this time. If we get through the whole PoE and the game isn't over, we lynch one of Muz/Umami.

 

Additionally, Angels may only protect a Haunted player if there are more Angels than Demons.

One of tom/jari being scum is enough to block the protect.
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But from the point of view of a random townie, we know that there can only be one scum in

Vaimes
Cobalt
Newcomb
Disquieted
Dels
KaiDASH
shadowlancerx
M Plus 7
fluff

 

No. N2, tom and Jari are both dead. If it's 1 angel vs. 1 demon, we see fonti just die, since at parity you can't protect Haunts. The only thing we know /for sure/ is that they weren't both villagers, since then you'd have seen fonti tank a shot and then die to Roll Kill.

Jari v / tom w and Jari w / tom v are both possible, just unlikely.

 

Out of those I am willing to cross out Newcomb, the musketeers and myself, leaving.

Cobalt
Dels
KaiDASH
shadowlancerx
M Plus 7
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With one scum in there.

 

Quite frankly, "it's rude to Manasi" is not even an iota of a concern of mine. It's a game and you play the hand you are dealt and if that means you have to... what, "stay in the game" aka be alive and just stop posting in the thread...? It doesn't feel like much of a burden... Like she doesn't have a commitment lol, she can just literally stop posting and/or keep lolcatting. It's not that horrible.