*chuckles*
The double edged sword of mechanical breakdowns.

FWIW, if it goes to me, I’m judging Manasi unless someone has a really good reason I shouldn’t.

 

Anything. I don't care. I'm voting Shadow, if the LC activates they can do that regardless, and if the vote swings another way, I'll converge.

 

The fact that Kai is putting in LEGWORK to propose alternatives to not triggering today when that's what we wanted is

uh

EXACTLY why he could be the last witch.

But okay.

He proposes ME getting triggered into Manasi today even though that is the EXACT same PoE-wise as LC triggering into Manasi today and if he were town he would fucking know that.
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Like, why propose killing me today if the widely understood optimal mechanics is to keep DoB until MYLO / LYLO?

He just wants me gone because I'm the strongest proponent of witch Kai and without me all he would need is maybe one or two more days to avoid triggering for a win for his team.

I'm not fucking stupid and neither is the rest of town.

 

To be fair, by that logic, couldn't we also lynch you today and then have LC go off at lylo?
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honestly those roles seem so similar i don't even get why they are both a thing

 

DOB has to be killed in order for their kill to target someone. LC can pop on anyone, at any time.
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^or lynched
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So I’m MYLO/LYLO, you lynch the DoB who aims at another in PoE, for maximum coverage. Loose Cannon can go off whether or not they’re lynched and could potentially screw things up if the world isn’t what we think it is.

 

right but if it's lylo, you could still tell the LC "blow up on this person plz. and if you don't, we will lynch you" so it should effectively be the same? but yes DoB is more straightforward since they don't have control

 

Cobalt.

It. Does. Not. Matter.

Kai is a dead man walking. He can’t do manipulation of any sort because he’s going to die before we reach LYLO, or we’re screwed because the team is Manasi/muz/Umami/Kai.

“But Kai is trying to kill me -“ doesn’t matter, he’s still dead eventually, he can’t win.

“He’s trying to avoid triggering-“ like you said, we’re not fucking idiots, we’ll get him to trigger. It’s not like we lose the game if he’s a witch and triggers today.

So unless you can find a mechanical situation where Kai won’t be forced to mechanically trigger tomorrow, can you stop with the speculation? Because it is literally irrelevant.

 

Killing Manasi today is dumb. Thanks.

 

Fine, then you go ahead and spend as many hours as I spent on the game figuring this shit out and you fucking decide what we do then.

I don’t care anymore. Anything I try and any opinion I have is irrelevant or wrong or dumb and I’m BEYOND over it.
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No one else has the game sense to care.

 

I’m not here to baby you, Cobalt. You refuse to listen that Kai is already dead and the fact you don’t realise that is no-one’s fault but yours. You can spend as many hours on the game as you want but no, it doesn’t make you right. It sucks. Oh well. But you’re still wrong unless you can explain otherwise.

Both of you need to spend one paragraph to explain why what you’re doing is right in clear mechanical terms or you’re screaming at a cloud, and I don’t have the time or patience to kindly tell you you’re off track when you refuse to listen anyways.

 

Or rather, you may be on track, but it doesn't matter either way because we don't need to be told to force Kai to LC when it is inevitable. Same as you DoBing at lylo.
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And remember, I want Kai to LC into Shadow today.

And if not today and Manasi gets lynched, I want it tomorrow.

And if Kai LCs Manasi today and the game doesn't end, I want Shadow lynched tomorrow.

That's all.

They're all the same, just different order.
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(Or I want Shadow lynched today and then Kai LC into Manasi tomorrow. W/e)
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But mostly I want Manasi alive today because I still don't get why an extra night of last stand is worth it.

 

If we don’t kill Manasi today we could theoretically lose to a last witch of muzjik or Umami.

 

I have returned!
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Hi I haven't met you before.
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Spoiler

that's a joke they're in my witchchat

 

But we're losing anyway if that's it.

 

That seems very fatalistic, Dels. I don’t believe that.

 

I don't know. Haven't really thought about it much.

 

You should think about it more.

I’ve lost to a witch Undertaker and it was appropriately humiliating. Just because someone has the Undertaker role shouldn’t preclude them from being a witch.
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Since I’m talking about personal matters - in case you haven’t caught on, you may already know me as the only Australian moderator on Mafia Universe.

 

I think Manasi needs to die today.

 

Agreed.

Vote Manasi

 

But I don't think Umami is a witch anyway.