Okay, enough.

I tinfoiled this enough before I realized how fucking ridiculous it was.

A witch team of Jarizok/Manasi/Tom/Newcomb, after losing a teammate on day one, DOES NOT EVER not kill a villager.

It’s so outlandish to think that we need to get it out of our heads. They ALWAYS kill a strong villager while hunting the priest, especially when losing a teammate on the first day. Newcomb is not a witch. Relax.
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@Vaimes

I believe MP7 is the correct lynch here.

I still think Shadow is town, so I would like to do MP7 today and then Fluff tomorrow. What I’m worried about is losing to a musketeer in this world.

 

Okay, you keep saying Musketeers. Do you have a specific one in mind?
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Because you know scum!Vaimes deflates pretty quickly when his whole team goes poof in like, two Days.
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I don't really have a read on Disquieted. I liked Gemma well enough and sort of haven't looked back.

 

@Vaimes

That’s my problem.

I don’t think you’re a witch, I didn’t think Gemma was a witch. But the last TH where the coven was you/Gemma I didn’t think Gemma was a witch either, though I suspected you iirc.

I don’t think Disquieted in particular has any witch equity. But my issue is, if I rely on those reads, all it takes is either one of you playing a very good game around that whole mess for us to lose.

Especially if you get an extra KP.
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And yes I know how scum Vaimes deflates and I don’t think that tracks here.

But I’m not willing to LOSE to that.

 

Scum >Cobalt claimed Oracle >not scum > Cobalt retracted claim> not sure > scum

 

How is that any different from literally anyone else being a witch?

 

Because they’re in the PoE and most of them will die before the end of the game.
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Because they’re in the PoE and most of them will die before the end of the game.
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Sorry for doublepost, shitty service here

 

And what if the witch is a non-PoE, non Musketeer?

 

That leaves literally only Newcomb.
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Because Dels is technically PoE.

 

He is literally closing off mislynches from his POV.
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Dels is townier than Newcomb imo.
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Okay.

I think I'm good with clearing you here.

 

Newcomb tanked a night one shot at a time when that witch team NEVER gives up a chance to hunt the priest.

 

A witch who's in the PoE never says "I don't want to kill the other people in the PoE."
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I mean, there are edge cases where scum will purposefully leave a Cop role alive.

I agree the odds are low but it's never at 0%.

 

I think Dels is town too w/r/t day one interactions with Manasi.

But there’s little that mechanically proves that like Newcomb. Knowing Manasi would survive and their other 2 teammates were already down, witch Dels would have no choice other than to shoot Manasi for the cred since he would be the last one alive.

I don’t think it’s likely, just more likely than Newcomb.

 

And really, who gives a shit about the Priest when a witch is dead? Anyone can claim they were Haunted.
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The case for Newcomb never faking a kill N1 would be objectively stronger if Jarizok had been town.

 

Let’s go back and look at Newcomb’s D1 reads and if any of those were witches, because then they’d be afraid of a check.
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I disagree with that.

 

Ugh no don't make me look at incomplete DLP ISOs.
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It's not a debate.

You literally cannot be Haunted if there are no Demons, and at some point, enough puzzle pieces come together to realize that's the case.

 

Considering this was one of Newcomb’s most fleshed out reads, it totally tracks that they’d kill him afraid of a check.
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This also happened D1.

 

on who, specifically?

 

Also, he reaffirmed Kai’s read which was the earliest post condemning Jarizok iirc.

3 for 3, I’d shoot him too if I were on that team.

 

Honestly, I'm not all that interested in killing Newcomb right now. Especially since fluff life'd him.

But I also don't want to put all our eggs in the Newcomb Is Town basket without being as certain as we can be.

Normally I wouldn't be this paranoid but Newcomb has had a weird/uncomfortable vibe all game.

 

He suspected both Manasi AND Tom.

To the witches, if he’s the priest, he’s most likely checking someone on their team.

Like the kill tracks so much with how Newcomb acted D1, if that’s fake I will literally throw up.
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@Vaimes

I am more willing to put all my eggs in the Newcomb Is Town basket than I have been willing to do anything else all game.

And that includes putting all my previous eggs in the Shadow Is Town basket.