This is a lot which I will read in depth later/tomorrow but to answer your question my answer is lol i was waiting for you to tell me what you think of vaimes

and apparently you have

idk he's felt relatively towny though

maybe i'm placing too much stock into jari's treatment of him day 1 because you're right that some of the processes aren't like, super deep, even though they make sense as villagery processes?

i'll look at it more later

vaimes is almost in newcomb (that's you!) territory of "i really don't think it's fluff or mplus, so like, yeah, maybe?"

also i was trying to think, if we mislynch shadow today, then we NL tomorrow to go to a lylo of 3 left... what will happen with musketeers? the scum cna't kill just one musketeer tonight then or we get an extra kill before we lynch, but then on the night of the NL, they kill both musketeers? if they kill only 1, then the musketeer gets a daykill... but that'd mean the musketeer left doesn't use it because we'd lynch cobalt anyway? (also if the final scum is the musketeer they literally win if we NL, since they kill the other one and end lylo via dayshot) just thinking out loud

 

Hello Dels!

 

it's not even that vaimes is necessarily less towny than fluff or mplus, it's just that fluff and mplus are people i've been considering as suspects for 2 weeks now and my mind has just never accepted that they could be scum, so vaimes, as someone who i have spent no time considering as a suspect, hasn't had a chance to be ruled out by me, if that makes sense

(but only because he, y'know, hasn't been a suspect)
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Hi!

 

Kind of a minor thing but it's maybe worth noting that this is like, conceding that Jari was a hit when that info wasn't in the thread yet.

Blunted by the fact that he was responding to Cobalt's read, so eh.

Still super confused by wtf tom was doing this game.

Noting that he ran with the level 2 play on Jarizok alignment opinions, which... might indicate that it's at least something they talked about and makes reads off that less reliable.

His reads are like... man that's just hardcore townsiding if Mp7 is indeed a villager. Like if Vaimes/Gemmaslot are also both town then he's putting manasi and his other partner in his PoE of 5 at the beginning of D freaking 2? idk man.

 

!!!!

 

i mean vaimes basically hasn't done anything for the past... well, a large number of days. but that's because the first 3 scum just came to us and there has been nothing to discuss and it was a slog. so it's not exactly a mark against him.

 

What the actual fuck is that last tom post if he literally put all his scummates in the POE?
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Fluff's ISO is a thing.
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Hi Fluff!
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What are your reads right now?

 

Shadow most likely scum, Newcomb second most likely scum, Vaimes and Disquieted both 100% town.

 

Why'd you +life me with no discussion / hesitation after I called for it?

 

Cause I was townreading you until your recent series of posts.

I probably fucked up by silently lifing you tbh.

 

What specifically about his most recent posts bothers you?

 

But its probably just shadow and I'm probably just excessively scared of having caused town to lose.

 

I actually feel like my posting today has been the most villagery I've been this game.

What haven't you liked about it?

 

Also, the overall fluff ISO conclusion:

I think Fluff is more town than not mostly due to the combination of 1) no apparent agenda + 2) interactions with tom, but I mean, otherwise it's sort of hard to tell? If Fluff and tom decided to bus each other, they're supposedly compatible.

Sigh.

Also, now I'm pretty tired. More ISOs and stuff tomorrow.

 

The fact that Vaimes and I, the two people who suggested you might be scum and we should look at you closely, are the two people you immediately moved to scumread and discredit.
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Just raises all sorts of alarms to me.
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I know this is meta, but if you check any of my scum games, I hate bussing halfheartedly and just plopping my vote on a partner and leaving it there.

 

I think that's an extremely un-nuanced view of what I've been doing toDay, but you do you.

 

Ok, there were 5 minutes between me suggesting we needed to think harder about you and you saying Vaimes and I needed to be lynched right after shadow.

Sorry for being inaccurate by saying it was immediate, it took you more than 4 minutes to make that post.

 

Not sure if you've got your posts confused or something, but -

I started off the day looking for one kill outside of shadow. I started off the day wanting to put that shot between Dels and Mp7. After you +lifed me the first post I made had moved off Dels and put him to probable town, and it was between Mp7 and you. Then I looked at EoD1 and cleared Mp7. So now it's between you and Vaimes.

Help me get into your head here, fluff. You think I get +lifed, as a witch, and that changes the arithmetic for who I need to get mislynched alongside shadow how, exactly?