Shadow is still LHF lynchbait imo, team is Jari/Manasi/Tom/Fluff

 

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Fonti/Newcomb
Muz/Gemma/Vaimes
Umami/M7/Kai
Dels/Cobalt
Fluff
Shadow
Jari/Manasi
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Ftr, i should be cobalt colored.
Imo
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The same color as cobalt, not cobalt the color
Tom

 

FWIW Tom is probably putting fluff as low as he is so that if/when he flips we look higher in his list for partners

 

When's deadline?

 

FTR, i plan to outlive fluff regardless of both of our alignments

 

like 48 hours from now i think

 

I would think nightkilling me would be counterproductive, but you do you.

 

Unvote Manasi
Vote Shadow

 

I took fonti's advice and re-read Cobalt with manasi=witch in mind and yeah, he's not w/w with her here unless he's drastically leveled his wolf game.

Especially the flat No-Sell to Gemma mid D1. If Gemma's town that's just never a thing I'd expect wolf!Cobalt to post about a partner.

@KaiDASH are you sticking with your Cobalt w read here?

I rolled this post around in my head and Umami derptells aside, I don't think this is really a partner read? Not for someone relatively new to mafia. There's too much emphasis on empathy and the ding against manasi's Dels read giving Dels an out to get townread is just a really weird angle to take about your partner?

Spoiler

Kind of forgot Kai made this Jarizok case. It really doesn't read like a bus to me.

That actually does kind of read like a "wtf are you doing man get off my back" type thing I've seen wolves make to partners. Doesn't really fit my mental model of what Jari specifically would post to partner Kai there but it's not like, wildly impossible for that to be w/w. Still think on balance I agree with fonti and Kai's pretty town.

 

I honestly don't think Newcomb would post this to a buddy, lol.
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Feel like this leans sort of not fluff? You're already including one (clearly doomed) partner in your list, do you really wanna include a second one? I feel Jari hadn't even really shown a progression on fluff before this so it's like, if you don't need to include your partner in a team guess, maybe don't?
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Now that I look back at this, I wonder if maybe it can lead to Newcomb being town?

Because think - if Jari and Newcomb are w/w together, does Jari really want to bring attention to the fact that Newcomb is writing him off?

And if it's somehow not Shadow, this feels very very not like a Jari/Newcomb/Fluff team, that's for sure.

 

You sound pretty sold on shadow being a witch here :v

 

I just don't think you risk saying this about a partner.

Like, sure, logically, you're just saying "don't lynch a 0-poster" which is sound advice, but you know if they're scum that this could come back to bite you. You don't NEED the towncred of dispensing proper advice here so badly, if MPlus is scum, Jari can just not say anything, y'know?
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Should I not be? =P

 

Honestly, as much as I was hyper aware of not being compared to Mountainous Arson, I really haven't played with you all that much and a lot of my experience with you comes from that game. I know from reading other games that you definitely can get pretty blase as a villager when villager is in a good position, but I do have to keep reminding myself that you tearing your hair out over "what if Phighter is a wolf here" is not the normal state of affairs for you.

 

Not gonna lie, I enjoy voting Cobalt.

I'm kinda busy atm and not particularly concerned I'm going to die before tomorrow so it's kinda whatever in my view.

 

Tl:dr I keep expecting you to be more paranoid that we're getting snowed. Like I've been expecting you to drop the "Jarizok was the Priest and fonti/Gemma/Muz/Vaimes are destroying us" world ever since fonti claimed.
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That's fair. I enjoy voting Cobalt too.

 

I mean it depends on the game

We seem to be in a very good position here

I'm assuming Shadow's a wolf and I honestly don't see a reason to even consider otherwise, especially since he's definitely gonna die

That game we weren't in a good position

I mean, look at last game here which you hosted but don't remember, that was also a winning position and I treated it about the same, was very blase about tom being scum and about it being an EZ final witch (though we thought it was cobalt for a while but i still acted like the game was over lol)

 

Yeah, I'm aware, I'm just musing out loud and like, checking myself.

Also I do sort of remember that game now. Tom/Citrus/Gemma and I spent like 2 hours rehashing the flavor to make it TinyHunt IN SPACE. Fun times.

 

I was responding to a post where you listed that one thing as your reasoning. You don't need to react that way.

I don't think "never saw much to make me rethink my read" is reasoning. You've basically said "he hasn't been scummy", which is a read, but not really reasoning. Anyway, I'm pretty over it at this point, so it's whatever.
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@shadowlancerx are you okay? Is there a reason you're not posting anymore?