That sucks, but w/e.

 

Dermon judge-killing Lucky is slightly better only due to the one case where Bill Door was Spprentice Witch, and Lucky is hiding Survivalist Witch. I do not expect this to be the case, but it costs us nothing.

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Note how even now he isn't giving us Bill Door's role.

 

True it's still a risk, though.
Assume Dermon scum fakeclaimed:
Assume surviver scum and judge scum and xyz scum.

Reasonable Worst case:
Lynch -1 town
Kill - 1 town
Lynch -survivor
Kill -1 town
3 scum vs 3 town and Moridin still doesn't know which one is the judge

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xyz has to be apprentice

 

Yeah, because I'm pretty sure that you're scum Pi. You drop your case on Dermon based on a few words otherwise, relying on judge kill, taking over town, Zeit vanishing, etc. At this point I really hope Moridin is town because if not we've already lost. But I don't the word prowess to make anything other than baseless accusations/gut feels, so I'm done, hope town doesn't lose. Later.

 

There are two reasons why Witch Luckylee would refuse to divulge Bill Door's role.

1) Luckylee is actually the Survivalist, and Bill Door was the (Witch) Apprentice. Lucky has no safe information to use, and can't very well claim Bill was the Survivalist, can he?

2) Bill Door, Witch or not, was the Recluse or Fanatic, a title now in use by his fellow Witch.

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Everyone seeing this? He can't say what Bill was!

 

What's with:
LuckyLee is the judge, scum!Dermon is the survivor, Bill was the witch apprentice

 

You mean, where Lucky is scum? Obviously this doesn't work if Lucky is town.

 

yes, that's what I mean

 

That universe (scum team: Lucky-Judge, Dermon-Survivalist, Bill-Apprentice) is... possible, yeah. But it will be hard to maintain. They'd be caught in the act by forcing Judge to kill Lucky today, and then another Judge kill on a Survivalist candidate tomorrow.

 

Well the point that I was trying to make is that I can still imagine a (judge, apprentice, survivor) team, all alive (say aprentice!font, survivor!dermon, judge!lucky or something). In this case there is a risk that judge-lynching costs us the win.

 

Can we just regular lynch someone? This is getting ridiculous. Let's do this by our hands, and not by Dermon's.

 

Town actually still wins that, but barely. Key:

When you find the Survivalist, you DON'T FINISH THEM OFF. You leave them for Assassin or DOB; scum has to ultimately kill at least one of them.

 

What? that's what I was kinda arguing for. how is this getting ridiculous?

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^@Vira......

 

I don't want you to try to use this bs later so I guess I'll give BD's card. At this point you won't believe me anyhow so I don't see why you're so interested. He was scum Gambler.

 

I'll vote to lynch Luckylee. In the unlikely event he is the Survivalist, we are going to win anyway and it will confirm he is a Witch.

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Gambler is currently the only card unaccounted for, and the most likely candidate for Aekiel's role.

All other options for Aekiel are impossible or dubious.

 

Eh, no, but whatever

Lynch LuckyLee

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..............

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Eh, won't bother to do much more

 

Rescind Vote.

Lynch Vote: Luckylee.

 

I still want someone to look at my unaligned pairs, because if I can trust them we're in one of 7 worlds:
Zeit!scum:
1.LuckyRubiconZeitVira
2.LuckyRubiconZeitDermon
Bill!scum
3.LuckyRubiconBillFontisian
4.LuckyRubiconBillDermon
Neither!scum
5.LuckyRubiconFontVira
6.LuckyRubiconFontDermon
7.LuckyRubiconDermonVira

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world one is bs.

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actually it isn't

 

Ok, I put the order down to judgekill Lucky in case something screws up.
Vote: Luckylee

At this point, I very much doubt that ChocoPi is scum. It would be too much trouble for him to go to the trouble of building an entire lynch case on me, and then refute that very case just to townfirm himself.

 

That's exactly what he wants you to think