Lack of analysis of players, I admit. It's my folly for not having analyzed so much at the point in time, and I admit that.

My style of playing is this:
First, analyze the mechanics. Get a clear picture of things, then move on to scum reads.

Mechanics can be analyzed before the game.

I admit that the attack on me came before I had scum reads, and I had work to finish off, so there wasn't much time for me to do that. So, I simply posted my weak arguments with weak justifications. It was a great mistake on my part.

Yesterday night was spent in analysis, hence I did not post yesterday. I was looking through the thread once more for scum reads. And I found what I did: Moridin and Klackerz.

No, I'm not assuming that.

I see evidence that you don't act against Klackerz, which just strikes me as anti-town. There isn't any hard-and-fast rule about scum derping again, just because they derped before.

Republic aside, because he was replaced, I think.

 

I think it would be better to go for the player that you think is most likely to be scum each turn, killing a scum is better than killing a suspect. And then you also get more information on the suspect the next day, which is always good. Just my opinion though.

 

I agree, but at the time I didn't have a particularly strong read on Klackerz, and Republic was equally likely. In that light, I decided that Republic would make a better target. Now, of course, I do have better reads and your (bob99) reasoning is exactly why I'm voting for Geabe.

 

Well. I'm about to go to sleep, so I won't be back before the day end.

Since it looks like this is the direction we're going, and because a no-lynch is bad...

Unlynch: Klackerz
Lynch: Geabe

 

To be fair to Moridin the second any Meta, at all, gets brought into a game lynching Republic before his derps break the game is about as pro-town as you can get.

@Geabe:

That is what I was looking for, thank you. Advice for the future though, don't sell weak arguements for more then they're worth. It does look scummy.

My lynch vote is on klackerz but I'll be back right before days end and will change if I'm the majority decider.

 

Ok,I have to go out now and I will only be back after the day end . Let's hope that I am still alive by then

 

Out for the night.

 

LOL. This is exactly what I thought.

Anyway, I really don't want to switch my vote to either of the two choices. They both seem equally bandwagony.

I'll be around for the next few hours, so I will be checking back.

 

Normally, I'd be with Ash on this one. I can't say I really understand where the Klackerz/Geabe lynch votes are all coming from, but I think it's just me not liking the idea of lynching someone I don't really feel is probably scum.

However, as has been stated before, scum!judge is just too dangerous. So unless things change in the next hour or so...

Deadline Lynch: Klackerz

 

So, I apologize, but I ended up sleeping much of yesterday after getting home, and somewhat inexplicably(mostly in retrospect) attending a party/gathering/thingamajig today for slightly more than eleven hours(!!).

Anyway, I've been reading and catching up to the current state of things in a progressively exhausted state, but I would at least like to contribute somehow, since I will most definitely be asleep when the day ends. As I've said before, I despise uninformed voting, but for once the Judge mechanic very well may be in the hands of scum this game.

With that in mind, and the fact that Geabe only needs five or six votes(should be six, I think, but I'm honestly not sure what will happen with our players needing replacement), compared to Klackerz needing eight or nine more, I'll put my vote on him this time around.

Lynch Vote: Geabe

p.s. While it would be unfortunate if he really is innocent, I will admit to some vindictive pleasure at seeing somebody else getting killed for posting 'too informatively' despite being innocent. It's probably about the main reason why I started to participate in a less verbal fashion in games, than in my first few rounds. I was consistently getting flak for typing a lot, despite having only been innocent roles up to that point.

 

Vote Lynch: Gaebe

Am I completely convinced that he is scum? No.

But he has the most votes and voting for someone else only increases chances of no lynch.

 

...on a related note, please ignore the vote mishaps I just made. I honestly forgot off the top of my head the specific mechanic for voting on Moscone, and ended up double clicking on a few different places... even myself... before casting my vote properly.

With that confused course of action as a good enough reason, I am off to bed.

 

Ugh. Dammit.

I'm more sure than not that Geabe is innocent at this point, and we're going to kill off an asset to town. But more sure than not still leaves ~20-25% chance he's scum of some kind. If it's left up to town!judge, Geabe probably gets killed there, anyways. If it's scum!judge, it's guaranteed town (and yeah, probably me) that is killed.

So, with that logic in mind:

Rescind Vote
Lynch Vote: Geabe

(But I still reeeally do not like a lot of this Geabe lynchtrain. Just, ugh)

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Three more votes to hammer the lynch, 3 hours 40 minutes until day end. An update for those that don't have Moscone up at the moment, and may not be feeling any sense of urgency.

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Needing 4 replacements puts our back against the wall, but...

Lutris, Mishie, Menace, Cheddar, BillDoor. No votes at all.

Ashaya. Useless vote.

Lungs, Stojil, Bob, Kalas, Thebrute. I think Klackerz is still the best target, but it's unproductive at this point.

On the positive side, there's a lot of potential info to glean from voting.... and not voting, even on day one. Especially if a glaringly obvious scum!judge pops up.

 

Ashaya, voting for someone who has no chance of being lynched in 2 hours is useless and stupid. Make a decision, either way.

We need a lynch, as of right now, I don't believe enough people will be able to switch to Klackerz to get a lynch. out of the two, I personally believe Geabe has a higher chance of being scum, but do not like Klackerz posts... at all. But he should probably be looked at tomorrow, since we do NOT want the decision to go to scum!judge... Since anyone with a brain can see that it would be bad. Vote people.

 

Okay, so I may or may not have been in Skyrim stealing people's clothes off their backs without them noticing and cackling madly because of my nudemods but I'm caught up in the thread now.

I'll just hit the bullet points since I really don't want to write a TL;DR.

I am concerned first and foremost with the clearing of players with long, well thought-out posts who contribute to discussion. Regardless of scum status this is a +town trait, and so I feel that these players should be Checked first before any sort of premature bandwagon should be considered against them.

Sesc raised the point of KaiDASH having a rapport with essentially a select few people in #246. I believe he uses the term "ping-pong", but if we can clear him, Eidolonic, and Geabe, who are players I consider the most logical and well-thought out in their posts.

Of these players, only Geabe is in the running for a Lynch at the moment (Kai does have one vote by Ashaya but that's so unlikely to go through that it's negligible).

Geabe reads somewhat scummily to me, but not to any major degree. I disagree with the notion that posting possible scumplans is -town as a whole, since it allows town to formulate defenses to those plans at least, and discourages scum from using them unless. But that's only a broad piece of logic and it's flimsy defense at best so I'll not try to convince anyone that my opinion is the correct one. At any rate, I feel that claiming that Geabe is scum because of his discourse on scumplans is ridiculous.

This brings me to a quandary, being reminded of the possibility of scum!Judge and the dangers that role combination presents. I'm loathe to vote Geabe for the Lynch without first checking him, as I feel he has more to provide for town alive than dead regardless of his guilt or innocence at least for a single Night.

Ideally, I'd prefer a Geabe/Kai/Eido check tonight, as someone's already said somewhere IIRC, and a Lynch on someone like Klackerz, Bill Door, or Uncle Stojil, all whom either can be described of one or more of the following:

1. Posting with inconsistent logic and writing.
2. Being decidedly non-opinionated (i.e. not voting).
3. Being aggressively opinionated.

I suppose 2. also applies to myself at the moment.

Still, as many others have pointed out Scum!Judge is a very real threat, and it's crucial that we have a Lynch today as to avoid a scumjudgelynch. Though the possibility of Town!Judge cannot be discounted, but it's foolish to hope for the best and not prepare for a less favorable outcome, and by that logic I'm forced to place my vote for Geabe unless more votes come trickling in for Klackerz in the next couple of hours.

For now, Vote Player: Geabe.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think Geabe is scum. Of the two lynch possibilities Klackerz seems slightly more scummy. So Lynch Vote Klackerz However if it gets to the point in the next hour and 40 minutes where Geabe only needs one more vote, then I will reconsider for the sake of avoiding a no lynch.

 

Rescind vote
Vote: Geabe

I would much prefer a couple other targets but a no lynch day 1 is out of question. I agree (pretty much 100%) with Eidolonic on this matter, which surprises me somewhat.

I agree with Geabe on a number of things. He's coming off as town in a few others, too, but there are indeed scummy parts of his game, especially at the beginning.

Lynching Klackerz would be much better and LOL at the guys who tried to minimize the stuff going against him. I'm watching you.

Seratin's reasoning and vote on KaiDASH (and Ashaya rising from the dead to waste hers :facepalm) were in a big post that actually didn't say much and wasn't convincing at all (by the way, I'm of the opinion that on-the-run day/night extentions = bad hosting, extreme circumstances aside).

This said, is it bad if I campaign against KaiDASH in the Court? Unfortunately it is with two hours on the clock. I wanted to do it yesterday but needed to go to sleep. I'll refrain from doing it, then.

I'm going out, now. Let's avoid a fucking no lynch, okay?

 

One thing that hasn't been mentioned: Angel protection.

A town lynch on day one is less bad than any other day, because it brings protection into focus. So, scum have to think: Who is likely to be protected? And perhaps hit a sub-optimal target for them. Wine, wine, wine.

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Also, make sure you vote on Moscone - it's the only thing that actually matters. The game thread is just for us to argue and give reasoning for our votes, they don't actually 'count' when only posted here.

Geabe is at 14, but should be at 15, I think. Bill switching over would put the last nail in the coffin, so to speak.

I still don't like Geabe's lynch. I've been uneasy about it from the start. But at this point, it needs to happen, unfortunately.

 

As much as I really, really, really don't like this, a no lynch is the worst lynch, so

Rescind vote Klackerz

Lynch Vote Geabe

I'm going to say I really don't like this once more for emphasis.

And that should be that.

 

Ok, so thats a lynch.

So, its night! No one post.