Hai guys, why is this thread dead, there are 30 of us >_>

I'm personally not sure of what to do, so I want more people to fucking campaign for Courtseats. >_>

This is mostly filler and a post to remind people that this thing exists, since it's super unfun when inactivity. >_>

 

Alright, Lungs, question: can you tell me all the differences of this game from the one you are/were running?

 

Not sure that's a good question for this thread, it'll just confuse people.

 

There's a changelog somewhere, once i'm on a pc and not my phone is can get it for you.

 

Err, I haven't really looked at the game like that, but from the top of my head and a quick skim of the rolelist:

1. Fanatic exists
2. Queen has been nerfed for town, I guess.

Otherwise, it looks somewhat like the same game?

Obviously, the posting dynamic is sort of different, at least people check in here >_>

 

I'm not really looking for an answer for myself, KaiDASH. I was hoping I would get something derpy from Lungs by what he mentioned and what he would't mention.

But since he hardly tried at all...

 

Since this thread is not going anywhere now, I thoought I'll reply to bob99.

I just thought I'll be a good fit for a role in the court and after finding out my role I'll reaffirm my statement making your second statement invalid

What? I just wanted to post something seeing as the game had started and my mobile didn't have flash access.

But you became convinced that I was a scum because of that first post

Yep. Scum will try to get on the court to sell them out

Then what was the point of the previous two statements?

I didn't change my play style at all and did you ever think that I am acting like a townie because I am a townie. You are reading too much into the situation.

You admit that you don't have a lot of information but you're still making judgements just because of my first post.

 

Stojil, it's not my game, I don't care much about the changelog >_>

 

Also, there can be a lynch today. That's probably the most important change after the Queen nerf, and makes me thankful for the long day.

You have to admit that there are roles which have no business being on the court and at the time of posting you had no reason to believe you weren't one of them.

If nothing else, posting that you want to be on the court, and then finding out you're the priest or something and having to make a noticeable u-turn would have been a pretty big tell in itself, don't you think? It was rather irresponsible of you to have put yourself forth for court without knowing if you really should be on it, and that is what I think makes a lot of us feel like it might have been scum trying to sneak onto court while leaving room for a backpedal, rather than such a big act of stupidity.

 

hi can we stop talking about roles because really.

Saying x set of roles shouldn't be on the court, then encouraging people to say they shouldn't on the court is like the peak of stupid.

So no more rolecourt talk under punishment of my eternal lynch vote.

changelog: http://pastebin.com/xV8bGA2Q (and no, there is no trap to be had in asking for a list of facts unless you think lungs has a brick for a brain).

 

Welllllllll, now that you mention it....

:awesome

 

This brick is state of the art, sir. It was made well. D:

 

I helped!

I won't be on for about 15 hours so if I don't reply to inane bullshit, I'm away from the phone right now.

 

Okay, first of... the Ollie thing isn't going anywhere, and he at least responded to me now. So i'm going to Unvote: Ollie.

but this is pretty much because I found a much better target.... Geabe. What were you thinking in your recent post?

It was way to long to quote, but go re-read what you said... You basically made a beneficial list of how-to-play certain roles.... ... FOR THE SCUM. In what world is this a good thing? Did you even think about it before you wrote it out? Vote: Geabe

Helping scum by telling them how to play certain roles is the opposite of what you should be doing.


Okay, now for Kai's question. A town read, a priest check, a person I would kill, and a person I would save.

My first town read is... Surprisingly Kai himself. I've been pretty happy with his posts, and he is generally trying to lead town/king to make educated decisions. Plus, I agree with his more proactive approach to this game, rather then the, "lets sit around and see what happens" approach..

Priest check: This one would also, have to go to Kai. Even though I have a town read on him, he is a devious guy, and i'd be stupid to naively trust him. He would probably be on my top 2 to check first in this game.

Kill: At this point? Definitely Geabe. If you need reasons, check out my post above^

Person i'd save?: At this point, i'm not to sure about many people. Sirion comes from another forums (GOD) that i've played mafia on. He's a solid player, and definitely an asset to town. He made promises to be more active, so if he posts more he could definitely be on of my picks. At this point though, I don't think i'd really save anyone, because... who knows? I'll need to get more of a read on people... So, post guys! (And girls)

 

I have town reads on Mishie and KaiDASH. Mishie and KaiDASH have been posting a lot and starting lots of conversation, and overall the two have struck me as two big townies.

I would definitely priest check Gambit. I think I know what role he is, but if I'm wrong then he's probably a witch.

I would doctor Mishie or KaiDASH because, general town reads, and they've been starting discussion.

 

jwlk and Sesc

The one who starts the most successful bandwagon by days end.

No one.

Either of the town reads. (If doctor means protect.)

 

At the start of this i wasn't going to bother campaigning for a court seat at all, simply because I still feel as if I've a lot to learn about mafia. I've changed my mind for a few reasons. I've got a few games under my belt at this stage and I'm playing this variant on GOD forums atm so I'm down with the various rules and roles.

My other reason is that while people like Eido and Kai have been standing out so far and I want to trust them, this is mafia. I can't trust anyone yet, really. Apart from myself. I know my role and the various strengths it has and so far I'm the only player that I know is town for certain. And one more town player on the court is always a good thing.

 

Yeah, but why would Geabe post something like that if he was scum? He could just tell them privately if he wanted.

Seems to me he was just responding to a question and giving a broader answer to it.

 

I have had my rare chance to log in in this instance. If anyone could suggest reasons why, when I attempt to log in, the system still shows that I am a guest, I would be most grateful to you.

If you have solutions to this odd problem of mine, please do let me know as well.

Back to the game at hand. I am answering Jwlk.

I was going to say that I was answering questions in detail, with some thought, but guljons said it before me.

Hence I shall answer your questions directly.

First, I was thinking it would be better if everyone knew the exact nature of an implied threat if it should occur. The later part of this post will provide another reason, because I'd like to expound on that particular portion.

In what world is this a good thing? Simply because it predicts possible actions so the implications must be known as well.

And yes, I did think about it before I posted.


Now for the part I wanted to expound on. Jwlk, have you heard of the term "flipping the chessboard"? It's mainly a fancy term used when you look at the game from the opponent's side.

Consider everything I said in that long post (okay, it might be a little hard to do it all at once). If you flip the chessboard over, and think about it from the scum's perspective, it's actually quite apparent that the uses of such roles are quite clear and obvious from a scum's perspective.

You may misunderstand the intention because I had tried to cover most bases with those scenarios and uses and stuff. Which brings me to my other point: Barring a role combination which I have not yet spotted, or something I have missed, there is no effective counter against Town by the Witches in those scenarios.

You may ask what I am rambling on about. Think into it a little deeper. Doing the exact opposite (or an opposite, depending), will only be detrimental for the witches.

Of course the old argument of thinking three layers deep leads back to the original scenario, and the scenarios themselves are a hypothetical analytical scumtell.

Please do let me know if I have managed to miss anything.

PS: The issue of the time of reveal for the Pagans still stands.

 

lynch geabe

Talk about people, not mechanics.