Silver Peas, in this instance I wasn't even refering to modern day USA, I was refering to the type of people that would be required to start the society suggested by Belerdorhan. Yes, I freely admit I don't like the US, but I don't randomly flamebait about it in threads where it doesn't have any place.

 

In my opinion it is a work of epic proportions. You would have to create the ENTIRE history of magic from scraps that are in canon and fill the holes with your own or other peoples ideas. Because you can't create a plausible government (especially plausible government of a fictional state) without analyzing that country history.
It's a wonderful idea! I will help you gladly, as much as I can.

 

Perhaps we could create a fictional book as a reference for my fic and future fics if anyone wanted to use it. Like JKR did with the Magical Animals book. It could be The Political History of the World, by Methene and Franki. A standard must read for the aspiring witch or wizard.

I would love to do that and a second opinion would be worth its weight in gold. Are you interested?

We could set-up a workshop thread, start from the ancient world and move our way up through the timeline.

 

I think that would be a rather interesting idea for a story here at the DLP web site. Having a magical political history 'book' for people to reference to, or use as a guideline to their stories (especially if your story has scenes outside of magical britain) would help new authors and maybe inspire more season authors to write stories with competent background of the locations they are writing about. Not to mention how authors could play around with time-travelling stories....

Being an american myself, I've put some thought into an american magical government. My first thought was that it'd be a rough magical congress, but that'd be kind of hard. I doubt that even as the vikings came over to america, they'd have brought enough wizards to form even a small magical society. So i skip ahead to when more people come by boat after columbus discovers america. Now maybe not many pure bloods themselves would have come over, but half- or muggle-born wizards (or witches) might not have had as much reluctance to leave, especially if they were facing prejudice from the much richer and more politically powerful pure bloods. It's not a stretch to think that a magical family might bewitch their way onto a ship to cross into the vast, open, and mostly ungoverned american soil to live free.

Which leads me to think that wizards definitely would have formed smaller villages or magical centers, separate from any muggle interference. My idea is mainly on the east coast, as I live there and it was the first area to be settled by european people (and by extension, my theoretical wizards). As more people emigrated to america (likely bringing more wizards and witches) they would have joined the existing one.

Magical native americans might have had more luck then their muggle counter-parts. The magical native americans on the plains were already a single magical oligarchy (the leadership of the magical tribes) that would have been able to use magic to hide their sacred or important lands when the united states bought the Louisiana purchase, which would later become magical centers.I have no idea what the magical west coast would look like, but i'm sure it would be possible to manipulate it to have magical 'centers' like the eastern coast. Possibly with some japanese wizard culture influencing some of the magical centers on the eastern coast. I'm assuming that these magical centers would ignore the national boundary between the american and canadian nations, when they form.

Given that we really don't know much about the magical americas or their forming, this is kind of how i saw it forming, I'd never put much thought into the west coast, but i always saw the east coast of having heavy british influence and the middle of the country being native american lands still.

Well i hope this is smarter then my second post...

 

Thank you for the interest Wildfeather. Franki and I have swapped PMs about the subject and we are working hard. We are now a bit further back in time with the story to mention the events you referenced, but we definetly have some ideas about magical US that you might find interesting.

It is our idea to let people use the history/politics story as a reference. I am glad you are interested in the matter.

 

Well, i won't claim to know a lot about history and politics but i have time and internet so i could do research if you wanted a little extra help i'd offer my mediocre services. I think it'd be very interesting if there was a whole story or virtual 'book' on our perceptions of how the magical governments of countries would form and grow throughout time. And maybe a third head wouldn't hurt the process along, though it takes me a while to write out a complete thought since i jump around topics in one paragraph. I'm working on that though....And even if not, it sounds like it'd be very interesting to read.

 

It's correct that canon doesn't provide much information about magical population in America save for one instance of "Salem Witches Institute". But a few things become rather obvious from the gathering at the World cup and day to day events at Hogwarts

1. Ethnicity seems to be less of an issue in magical populations. All that seems to matter is your heritage. We have seen people from diverse racial backgrounds interact freely and without any apparent undercurrent of friction like in Hogwarts (Seamus and Dean; Malfoy and Zabini, Shacklebolt who became a minister etc)

2. African Wizards mingled freely with rest in the world cup

This would lead one to believe that muggle and wizard history did not go hand in hand even in new lands such as America. That there was large sacel migration to the new world even by witches and wizards is hinted at several instances in the book "Quidditch through the ages" where it's mentioned that Quodpot descended from Quidditch that was introduced to America by wizards and witches who moved from Europe. It's entirely possible that their relations with their native American counterparts were much more amicable than their muggle counterparts and the two communities may have become much more closely aligned. But that does not provide much information on the kind of magical society that exists in America.

Similar may be the case with other countries, where wizards may have come into close contacts with each other as a consequence of muggle colonialism. A few magical folk would move to new lands along with their muggle brethren, but their interactions with the native magical folk may be very different. The possibility that magical populations around the world had relations with each other way before muggle contacts were established cannot be ruled out.