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Your pet peeves in fanfiction

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Mock Moniker, Jan 31, 2011.

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  1. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    You seem angry.

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    Wanna lemon drop?
     
  2. GrayFox

    GrayFox Slug Club Member DLP Supporter

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    I once read a fic where Harry gifts dumbledore with various 'infinite' candy bowls. They held all sorts of hard candies from lemon drops to red hots.
     
  3. Celestin

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    Well, that depends on version. US edition have a lemon drop instead of a sherbet lemon. And Dumbledore offers them to McGonagall in rather unusual situation. Add to that it's the first chapter of the book and the first thing that people know about him, so I'm not surprised that authors think of it when they need Albus to be Albus-like.
     
  4. El Duderino

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    You mean you read a standard crappy fic?

    No. Just no.
     
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    Come again? You do realise that more of us probably read the US version than the UK version, right?
     
  6. GrayFox

    GrayFox Slug Club Member DLP Supporter

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    You realize that we've all read 'standard crappy fics.' You can't read fanfiction without running into them.
    again.
    and again.
    and again.
     
  7. El Duderino

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    I know. I just really hate the lemon drops.
     
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    Ayreon Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    ???

    I used that example to argue that it wasn't important to be that accurate and do extensive research about stuff that is unimportant to the plot.
    In that instance it was video games and as you said just to show how spoiled Dudley was.
    Same thing with making up a street name in London if it doesn't matter at all where exactly it is. Or what trees would be common near Hogwarts or similar stuff.
     
  9. Grinning Lizard

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    This is daft anyway. His passwords are the names of sweets, he has his longest discussion with Harry to that point in PS about Bertie Botts, the guy just generally likes sweets. Lemon Drops and Sherbet Lemons are supposedly different sweets. It's not out of the realm of possibility to write a Dumbledore eating something other than Sherbet Lemons and have him Dumbledorian.
     
  10. El Duderino

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    That's not what I meant. What i meant was that sherbet lemons, or lemon drops, aren't really mentioned very much, so when authors make them out to be the thing that he always has, it's irritating.
     
  11. frantic

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    Ugh, I found something that annoys me to no end.

    When people kill off Ginny in the Chamber, and don't realize the fucking consequences.

    Hey asshole, I hate Ginny just as much as you, but killing her there means that Tom gets another go. If you're just going to ignore the fact that Ginny's death means Tom is alive again, then why did you kill her in the first place? It's almost as stupid as people killing Hermione in book one. If you can't write the character then, (Now bear with me, this might blow your mind,) you can just not use them.

    If for a chapter you think "Huh, I'm not really feeling Snape today," Then remove him from the chapter.

    If you feel you can't write Hermione and you're writing an AU, then don't use her for the story. This shit is writing 101. And furthermore:

    If you can't feel the story that day, don't fucking write it. So what if you fall a day behind schedule? If your chapter isn't up to your standard, then it's going to be a crappy chapter.

    This sort of crap annoys me to no end.
     
  12. Sesc

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    Heh. That's no good if you want to take writing a bit more seriously. There are always going to be times when you don't "feel" the story/a character, and you need to learn to write exactly then and produce quality. You're not doing that if you just pussy out. Writing is work. Improving your writing is even more work.


    Regarding the research for a story, in regards to HP in particular: Yeah, there are times when making up stuff makes more sense, when keeping strictly to reality would cripple your story. If I need a bar somewhere in a street where there isn't one, I damn straight will make one up. However, there is a difference between doing research and learning all about what you're writing about and then making an informed decision to change things to fit your story, and being a lazy bum and just making shit up because you never bothered to do research in the first place.

    TL;DR: In the age of internet and google, everyone can become enough of an expert in everything in a reasonable amount of time to not make a fool of themselves while writing or talking about it. Do eet.

    Also, Google Street View <3
    Does anyone besides me use this to cruise through neighbourhoods or landscapes to get a feel for the place they're writing about?
     
  13. PomMan

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    Yes. I most certainly do.

    Incidentally, wasn't it in one of nonjon's fics that Harry got him all the lemon drops and hot tamales. And then he sings 'Peeves is the Bestest' when he thinks Peeves has the lemon drops.

    One thing I always hate is Hermione essentially being the wizarding equivalent of google. Don't know something, go to it and she will know all about it. I instantly stop reading a fic if it happens twice. She is quite smart, I will give her that. However, she is no genius. I was sat in school maths exam that we were given, and finished twenty minutes early, so I went and reverse engineered an entire topic we hadn't learnt from the question and still managed to get full marks on this. I am no genius, and this is the level I expect Hermione to be at.

    My friend Tom is able to look at a single Sudoku puzzle from the Guardian for ten seconds and complete it within another thirty seconds. He is taking an additional three A levels this year, along with further maths. He is fifteen turning sixteen. This is the level of a genius. This is the level of people like Voldemort and Dumbledore.

    Hermione just doesn't measure up.
     
  14. Knyght

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    Has anyone called Hermione a genius before? Canonically, I mean.
     
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    "Brightest witch of he generation" might have appeared or maybe I just read to much fanfiction. Ron probably called her a "bloody genius" but he would hardy know what he's talking about.
     
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    Sirius Black, PoA, calls her this.
     
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    For the movie, it's Sirius that says it, but in CH17 of the book it's Remus

    This, coupled with Hermione's role as Expository Girl, are where people get the idea that she's a genius. Of course, compared to the rest of the cast...
     
  19. thebrute7

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    She is.

    Unfortunately, it all stems from "‘You’re the cleverest witch of your age I’ve ever met, Hermione.’"

    People forget that the 'age' there is taling about her actual age and not that she is "the cleverest witch of her 'Age'.

    Of course I unabashedly enjoy genius!Hermione, but canonically there is no evidence for her being a genius. She's just the only person in the trio with any degree of intelligence or drive to learn.
     
  20. Oruma

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    I always thought Hermione is the "learn everything" kind of genius, not the "innovative" kind of genius like Dumbledore or Riddle.
     
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