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Your pet peeves in fanfiction

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Mock Moniker, Jan 31, 2011.

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  1. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

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    You aren't?
     
  2. cazten

    cazten Slug Club Member

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    I can't stand how ignorant Harry is always made to be of the wizarding world and customs.

    Really I'm a super noble family and no one told me in till my last year of hogwarts?
    Really I have more than a trust fund account?
    Really here's more than one branch of gringotts? And dwarves to boot?
    Really pureblood kids can do magic at home?
    Really Malfoy only hates me because I didn't shake his hand and it's a sign of personal family insults amount purebloods?
    Really I don't know a single wizarding custom? Wait wizards even have customs!?!

    Whether it's cannon or Fannon, it drives me nuts when it's set up in such a way that he "should" know it but never does and looks like a lost puppy. Even worse yet, somehow Hermione of all people seems like a walking book of information about it...
     
  3. Richard

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    HAHAHAHAHA. No. Just-fucking-No. Period. It's not a soul-bond. It's just a piece of a soul stuck in his head because the Prophecy screwed up his ritual.

    It's Voldemort's soul piece that fucks with his head. The soul piece doesn't try to take him over, nor does it try to change him. He can't talk to Harry inside his head, nor does it give him telepathic abilities that most authors think this happens with a soul-bond. It's a Horcrux stuck in his head that allows him to feel Voldemort's emotions, and gives him visions.

    Edit: Also, pet-peeves of mine: Authors who can't fucking put question marks at the end of a sentence, and instead put periods! Annoying.
     
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  4. wolf550e

    wolf550e High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    The protagonist being completely ignorant of the workings of Wizarding Britain's society (culture, government, economics) is canon. The setting for the canon novels is a fairy-tale setting, not a role playing game or hard science fiction setting. You cannot meaningfully ask questions about it, the same way you cannot ask questions about the economics in fairy tales collected by the brothers Grimm. There are no physics in the Potterverse, thus there is no causality or combat tactics or economics. Also, multiplication is forbidden. All knowledge that is derived by applying multiplication is unknowable. You cannot know how many students are in Hogwarts, or how many magicals are born each year in the UK, or how many hours McGonagall works per week, or how many magicals are professional Quidditch players, or what percentage of adult wizards work in the Ministry or what Arthur's yearly salary is. Everything is built exclusively on the rule of cool (where cool means quirky) and the reader must be in a state of induced innumeracy the whole time.
     
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    Are you retarded? By the literal definition of the word, it's a soul-bond. Point of fact, it does let Voldemort "talk" to Harry - he can send entire preconstructed visions to him.

    The fact that shitty authors have bastardized soul-bonds into teen-fantasy self-inserts doesn't change that fact.
     
  6. Lens of Sanity

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    This is totally true, only you have to look at it from a kind of Meta perspective before you can see it…

    JKR has this sort of “by the way” writing style which is totally weird... By the way; dragons are real, by the way, Goblins run the economy, by the way wizard police are called Aurors… Do you get the idea?

    This was only pointed out to me when I went through a “re-read” by this faggot named “Mark” who blogged his initial insights into the series, so if you missed it you’re not alone.
     
  7. Lungs

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    Lens of Sanity calling someone a faggot.

    Does not compute.

    Edit: That Mark guy is a massive faggot. D8
     
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  8. Uncle Stojil

    Uncle Stojil Auror

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    I remember reading some of that Mark's reading thing. It was amusing to see some of his reactions to the first book, but the guy is... I'd say morally correct to a big ugly fault. I couldn't stand that for long.
     
  9. Bill Door

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    Harry has a piece of Voldemort's soul in his head. This is not a soul bond. For it to be a soul bond both of their souls would need to be connected. The horcrux in Harry is a completely seperate entity to the remainder of Voldemort's soul. It would be a soul bond if they shared part of their souls, instead Voldemort just shoved a piece of his soul in Harry.

    EDIT: Fuck that Mark guys a dick.
     
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  10. Lens of Sanity

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    It was linked because that’s where I found the insight…

    Personally I cannot stand reading something whose author is so defined by which gender he enjoys shoving his dick into!

    ...

    Nevertheless, my original point stands…

    JKR uses a “by the way” style which is as amateurish as it is effective :(
     
  11. Jormungandr

    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    Something that I've always wondered...

    We know that 'love' is a big subtext/background element to the series (e.g. Harry's Protection, his Uber!Patronus, etc) as are the dreams he has (prophetic, in a twisted metaphorical way), but does the horcrux/soul-shard in his head fuck with/enhance his negative emotions in the same, 'backhanded' sort of way?
     
  12. Jeram

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    Well, I've read ALL of what that Mark guy wrote - and I'd say he more than changes his tune on the books, which he ended up loving more than the whiners around here. In fairness, he had just come from reading the entirety of Twilight, which I'd say would make you paranoid for horrible writing around every corner.
     
  13. samkar

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    Right, but it creates the atmosphere of the world and defines its soul. Too bad too many fixme writers never figured out this constant and destroy what makes HarryPotter so fascinating.

    P.S. Well, even in our world you should never really ask questions about economics because it breaks down its fairy tale too:sherlock:
     
  14. wolf550e

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  15. Richard

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    I don't think Voldemort's soul-piece actually affects his personality. Harry getting pissed/broody/depressed/yelling bouts were his own personality. He's a teenager. Voldemort and Harry is the age old Nature vs Nurture debate. They both lived the same type of life: Being abused. Both of them were abused, both of them went different ways in personality. It's the age old balance of nature. One person will always go down the side of "evil", and the other down the side of "good". The only difference between Harry's and Tom Riddle's life is that the other kids at the orphanage abused him. Harry's relatives abused him. Vernon/Dudley both beat him up. Even Petunia tried smashing him in the head with a frying pan when he was a child, she only missed because he ducked.

    Whoever said he wasn't abused "that badly" a couple pages back obviously forgot that both Aunt and Uncle have physically abused him. Even Vernon said "Nothing a good beating won't fix" or whatever the hell the sentence said.
     
  16. Scrib

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    Voldemort and Harry are bonded, let's be honest. Harry can feel Voldemort's emotions and see some of his memories. Whether it's due to the soul shard in his head or some weird, hokey, ill-defined magic is irrelevant.
     
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  17. lilandriss

    lilandriss Second Year

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    Fudge getting tossed out of office and PERCY becoming Minister. He's, what, around 23?
     
  18. Mordecai

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    ...I don't think I've actually ever seen that.
     
  19. lilandriss

    lilandriss Second Year

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    I've forgotten which fic I was reading, but yeah, it went there. I'll see if I can track it down.

    Found it! 'With Malice Aforethought' by SPSmith http://www.harrypotterfanfiction.com/viewstory.php?psid=223057

    I actually enjoyed this fic despite that bit with Percy. The author is obviously not a Ginny fan and Grabbe and Goyle are actually used as more than idiot shields for Malfoy.

    How do you put spoiler space in this?
     
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  20. Alive and Free

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    Fics that have Harry be related to someone from another fandom as the vehicle of a crossover.
     
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