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Complete A Second Chance at Life Series by Miranda Flairgold - T/M

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by ChuckDaTruck, Aug 3, 2005.

  1. Gryffindors

    Gryffindors Guest

    guys, i'd say this fic was extremely well thought and organized, all that talk about magic and politics, it hasno holes that i can see
     
  2. Feoffic

    Feoffic Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    *cough*cough*

    Miranda does have a point....
     
  3. Olfrik

    Olfrik Seventh Year

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    I really like the stuff she created, the vamps are a bit too prominent but its very creative and well thought out.
    I wonder when it became potter law for good fanfiction here if we have seen some magic in the books. As long as she doesnt contradict the books without a really good reason, I like it and applaude her inventiveness.

    And, Revan, Which of the Harry's that the people here like is a Canon type? none, because we like him stronger or crazier or smater or whatever. Thats no reason to smash a fic.

    The only thing that comes to mind is that she will get into the same trap as "Mastermind hunting" went. The fic was brilliant but then it like stacked new powers until in the end, when I stopped reading it, the angels were fighting and everybody was so uber-powerful that it didnt make sense at all.

    But I still think that Flairgold will make it because she doesnt really need new powers to make things interesting.
     
  4. Feoffic

    Feoffic Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    ...huh? When did I smash the fic?

    And the only fic worse than Mastermind Hunting is that Scorpian Sorcerer fic (whatever the hell it is called).
     
  5. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    Yeah, Olfrik, that should have been directed at rj_stone2. Not Revan. Revan was defending Miranda.
     
  6. rj_stone2

    rj_stone2 Seventh Year

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    I personally don't like Canon Harry's complete wussiness, so I like to see somebody recognizably Harry-Potterish solve the canon HP problems. When I see somebody completely unrecognizable solving problems that are completely different from HP, then it loses the "fanfiction bonus" in my personal evaluation.

    And evaluating it on its own merits, Second Chance at Life is (in my opinion) quite bad. The world construction is ridiculous (I can buy one hidden world, but not four layered on top of each other [British wizards->Akren wizards ->vampires->elves]), the battle scenes are mediocre, and the characters are flat.

    My point in contrasting IP's fic with this one is that IP is also aware that Rowling leaves open large gaps in her world construction. But where he fills in the gaps with explanations that assume wizarding competence, Flairgold bends over backwards to portray wizarding Britain as populated with powerless fools.
     
  7. Xantam

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    I thought the ending was very anti-climatic. Harry basically just drops dead. I wanted to hear some of his thoughts on what was happening.
     
  8. carnivalofcarnage

    carnivalofcarnage Second Year

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    This raises a good point. Where is the balance between canon harry and OOC. Surely this Harry this is not the only OOC Harry we have seen so far. Most of the dark fics where he completely snaps are very OOC (although still enjoyable). In fact every fanfic written has Harry being OOC because they're never exactly like JKR has written.
    It bothers me that whenever a story comes out people always comment on either the fact that it is too canon or too OOC.
    This does not only apply to criticism of Harry. Whenever another canon character is portrayed differently (for example, Ron maturing) people canon (or the majority of the fanfics they've read) suddenly becomes holy and cannot be altered. It seems that nobody except for Harry (or Neville on occasion) can ever grow up.

    Back to the story. Another point of criticism a lot of you have is the Malfoy issue. I honestly do not think this will be a big part of her story, he's been mentioned about twice in the 30 odd chapters she's written. Why would that change? Also this is not the first male raping by vampires that occurs in the fic, the annoying vampire (who died) got raped as well. Luckily I'm hoping she treats this the same way and just glosses over it a bit. I think the comment was just included to get people interested in reading the sequel (because the ending definitely won't).

    As for Harry not fighting in the battle himself, this was a vampire's battle. He just happened to drop by so to speak. The vampire culture she's created thinks that it is a form of respect not to enter someone else's fight, to give them a chance to handle it on their own. I see Harry's actions as repaying this respect. As for the fight being horrible, I won't disagree. Fights and general action seem to be a weakness in her writing but I feel that the story balances out quite nicely. There have been few major battles where this kind of writing is necessary so it isn't too noticable. Her originality more that equates this flaw though in my opinion.
     
  9. Belzebu

    Belzebu First Year

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    I liked the first few chapters, then came the timetravel..which wasn't that bad actually, it made the story a lil interesting and served as good filler. What i don't understand and passionately dislike is the over powered vampiric "GOD's" because thats what the author makes them seem like..also, how many death eaters do you think there were? to take on those 50 something odd vampires a million? 2? at the rate the vampires/death angels were killing them there had to be a fair amount of cannon fodder.

    Also, wtf? the death eater were wayy to weak i understand that the vampires have centuries on them..but that doesn't explain why they would just stand there like some stupid useless lumps and get slaughtered, my point being this story turned from a very interesting and fun read into a pile of powerpuff girl vampire shit.

    Other than that I love the Harry in this fic, powerful independent and cunning.
     
  10. Feoffic

    Feoffic Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    The Vampire's that fought were old. Really old, and being old is a very good thing for vamps. Also, remember that the vast majority of Voldies DE's were taught at Hogwarts, which (as has been said in the fic) is easily one of the worst magic schools in the world. Given this and the fact that the vampires are all very old, then it is perfectly resionable that the DE's got completely pwned.

    And before anyone starts saying that the DE's are better than your average Hogwarts graduate (which is not saying much in this fic) because they use the Dark Arts, then you have to ask yourself who taught them the DA in the first place? From what I have seen in HP - cannon, it is the themselves. Each DE is self taught in the DA, and that is why the power between the various DE's varies between character.
     
  11. Ragon

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    Also you have to realize that the vampires were probably using magic thats been outlawed or lost to europe for 100s or 1000s of years. most likely very few DE, if any, would have seen bloodmagic at the level that was supposed to be at since from what i gathered was a bunch of blood magic.
     
  12. Kid Leo

    Kid Leo First Year

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    I have hated the 6th book since I first read it and I've never really liked any of the fic that included it, but I love this story its the only one so far that I like.
     
  13. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    Also remember at the end of OoTP Harry felt Dumbledores and Voldemorts magic pushing down on him. While I have no idea how Voldemort would compare to these 1000+ year old vampires like Namech(sp?) it was stated that when they let down their self imposed limitations on their power to use it at full power that all the young vampires were screaming in terror, and the Death Eaters were basiclly stuck to the spot.

    While Its probably possible to over come that kind of fealing of a couple of people who could easily match Dumbledore or Voldemort in terms of raw power, having all of them there and letting you feel the diffrence...

    It would take somebody of EXTREAME willpower to work as if nothing was wrong, in my opinion.
     
  14. Kiklo

    Kiklo Seventh Year

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    Wait hold on a sec. Do you mean this is the ONLY fanfic you like?? Kid you need to start reading some more stories, there are plenty to look through on this forum. I'm sure you will find something.
     
  15. Zield

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    He means the only fic that he likes that is post HBP.
     
  16. Kiklo

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    Oo I see, my bad Kid Leo. I misunderstood what you wrote.
     
  17. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    Love the avatar Kiklo. It's very true...:D

    Anyways, Kid Leo, try Here I Come by Dark-Syaoran. It's a good Post-HBP story, heading towards HP/LL, with a great explanation for a strong Harry.

    Link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2587806/1/

    Hasn't been updated in a while though...
     
  18. dark.itachi

    dark.itachi First Year

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    They finally got a new chapter out, it was kinda irritating. I mean how can you give voldemort hundreds upon hundreds of minions when there is no way in hell that of all the people in Great Britain that that many pureblood wizards joined him. And then he goes off and spends them like cannon fodder... I think they like vampires too much and paint them to be more powerful then they really should be. Some of them are almost demi gods in her story. Other than that I think it was ok.
     
  19. Feoffic

    Feoffic Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    Voldy has aspirations for ruling the entire world, do you really think he is getting his recruits from only the UK?
     
  20. vsd2oc

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    I think this was one of brilliant one's have read in all my time of HP fanfic hunting, and believe have read them all, except for well the slashs. The vampires are a bit powerful but then she hints/says that there are even bigger cats than them - elves. I like how Harrys(I generally have beefs with anyone changing character names. Don't ask why) strength continues to grow. When he starts to master his abilites I can guess that even the big bag elves(gods) might be a little weary of him.
    There are things to complain about in every story and there's plenty in this one as well, but overall it was a brilliant read.
     
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