Yo.

Looking for maybe stories where Ned Stark is cold and ruthless. In one I think he sent his wife to bear isle to basically die. Used to have it bookmarked but that pc is no longer with me sadly.

 

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I can understand why you might feel that way. These DLP guys...jokers, the lot em'.

 

I wanted to comment on the SI fic Wearing Robert's Crown. I saw a few people criticizing it, and I stumbled upon it during work last week. I liked it; they were a few cringe moment (like the aforementioned Mine Gas or the print press), but also several interesting ideas scattered throughout the story. One thing I liked is the PoV; we're not actually following Robert PoV and as such are not privy to all of his thoughts. This is great because most fanfiction writer can't do 1st person PoV for shit, and second because it leaves us guessing on WHY Robert is taking such and such action. The grammar seems pretty solid as well, so that's another point in its favor.

Overall an enjoyable read for me, and well worth the time. Plus, Robert doesn't fix all problem so far. He certainly strives to though.

3/5

 

Hello, i read a while ago "Ned Stark Lives" and since then i haven't been able to find a nice story with a similar setting as that one.

If someone has something in mind, i would love to hear about it.

 

Isn't that the OG stark-wank? There's literally dozens of those stories, and most, including that one, aren't good.

Kingdoms at War

Love and Honor

Took me five seconds on Ao3 to find one. Read through the thread please, we're not your search engine for generic topics.

 

Are there any fics where Robb tells Walder to go fuck himself after hearing the demands he makes for crossing the Twins?

I remember that when I first read that negotiation I thought we were in for siege chapters after the ridiculous terms he was offering.

Also any decent Ned/Ashara fics out there? I read The Evening Star a while back and been itching for more ever since.

 

Not really no. It's occasionally tossed in as a background pairing in Rhaegar/Lyanna dross, but it's pretty rare. Turtle_paced, the author of Disengagement and other excellent things, did do a decent series about a possibly canonical version here though.

 

Robb dies at the Twins trapped between Walder and his forces and Tywim and the Lannisters armies. Robb had to agree to deal or his entire purpose and campaign ends there at best and at worst Robb dies alongside with most of the North armies.

 

How so? The Lannister armies were far to the south and Robb's host is approaching from the North. I figured he went with it in order to gain time by not having to invest in a siege of the Twins.

 

That's exactly why he went with it. Otherwise, there would have been a siege...or perhaps even a castle storming. Freys aren't very disciplined. If GRRM had wanted to, it would've been completely plausible for Robb to send a handful of men into the Twins with climbing spikes to open its gates.

 

You know, there actually were some good example of Special Operations a la Special Forces in the Middle Ages, from things like Cx said to very complicated assassination missions to other crazy thing. Would be best to see them more, besides the usual "everyone is plotting, everyone is a secret murder, bang! He outploted you and you dead now"

 

He would have lost men in the process and pitted the 4,000 Frey levies against them as opposed to having them join his forces if he attacked.

It might have been better to ignore the Freys who likely would have just garrisoned their lands and not taken any action either way, find a different point to cross (which would have taken time and put the Northern forces in a different location) and then defeated Tywin and Jaime's armies (which might not have been possible without the 4,000 extra men and the different positioning on the map or at least more costly). At that point, the Northern army would appear to have at least broken the myth of the invincible Tywin Lannister and if they captured Jaime or some other important Lannister prisoners and broken the siege on Riverrun and gained the other Riverlands forces, Robb would have been in a much better position to negotiate with the Late Walder Frey who might commit his forces more willingly with a better deal.

 

This also raises the question : did nobody think of crossing the river while planning? Why pin every hope on the Freys?
Walder Frey would realise that should the negotiating extend beyond a certain scale, he either implicitly supported the Lannisters by not letting Robb cross, or threw in and be against the Lannisters. All of this because plot demanded it. A river so long and it has just one bridge capable of moving a host.

 

I refuse to believe that there would have been no other way to cross. In the Napoleonic Wars, during the Second Battle of Oporto Wellington outflanked the French army by crossing the Douro river using four barges and they had to take artillery as well. There's no way that Robb and the Northmen couldn't find an alternative crossing. I think the most important factor of The Twins is its location, allowing the Northmen to position themselves better in relation to the Lannister forces in the south, and more importantly the thousands of Frey bannermen who came with it. That's the only way it makes sense to me.

 

Okay. What I meant to say is that GRRM built the river in his plot to be impossible to cross anywhere else. He stated it to be too swift and deep.
Robb could have sent outriders with men to find all barges along the bank. They
certainly would be found, because it is impossible to not have them over such a long river and we know that the area is decently populated.
That is it about WotFK from me.

 

Have you ever been to a river like the Trident? Living in Brazil, I have seen a couple. I have also seen the things that people usually move around. You just don't cross some places with tens of thousands of people with horses and armor and stuff like that Willy nilly. Specially when there is no reason to have a bunch of transport barges around.

The Twins kill any need for barges anywhere near. Other places are too dangerous. Then what?

 

The real thing with the Twins is that Hoster knew that Walder was an untrustworthy dick and didn't do anything about it for fifteen years during which he had unquestioned authority and solid alliances with other kingdoms. Walder showed up late, and Hoster didn't do anything, something that had to be a factor in Walder not marching.

 

That's why I brought up the Second Battle of Porto. The French had blown up every bridge but one and the British had to cross the river Douro at a point where the river was 500 yards across and they brought across several battalions worth of troops with four wine barges and a bunch of rowing boats whilst facing the French army. Robb doesn't have an opposing army on the other side of the river to worry about and has more luxury of time to bring his whole force across safely - if he chose that path.

I know it's pretty much directly said that the Twins is the only crossing for miles but I find that unlikely and it more likely that Robb needed the 4,000 men, he needed to get across quickly so couldn't afford to spend time scouting for an alternative which would inevitably have been slower and he needed to be in a good enough position so that he could split his forces to lift the siege on Riverrun. That's my head-canon to manoeuvre the slight ridiculousness of the situation.

 

Looking at various maps, it's clear that the Trident actually ends in the Neck, not too far North of the Twins. If Robb had contacted Howland Reed and the crannogmen, it's entirely possible that they could have led his forces around the mouth of the Trident so that they never need to cross at all.

The only problem here would again be time, as it would no doubt take ages to travel through so much of the Neck.