Yeah, It did since I can now scroll to the bottom of the page without my finger starting to hurt.

@Apothem Ideally, a solution could be found where Harry can only use magic but can still outsmart and defeat channelers without the author needing to give Harry or other magic users super powers. I think transfiguration could be pretty helpful in a fight like this, considering Channelers would have to destroy the constructs giving wizards time to disapparate or go on the offensive.

 

One problem. Being unable to see Saidin/Saidar would be instant death, because a simple wind weave could be used to choke the life out of him. How would be block it? His wand? The channeler has already removed that from his possession with a wind weave as well.

 

Yes, he can. Too bad he's wandless, so escaping the weave doesn't exactly help him.

 

Why would you assume they would know to remove their wand, or that a specific this wizard wouldn't know they were being disarmed and hold onto their wand more tightly?

 

Obviously its impossible to say for certain. However the fact that Snape says that emotionless mindset blocks Legilimency and the fact that the void is essentially that does suggest that the void might provide protection. additionally, we know that holding the power increases the ability to resist compulsion in WoT, which is a weave that affects the mind. So its possible that simply holding the power might be sufficient, or atleast make it a lot harder for the wizard.

Yeh, Harry should have and use magic. I do believe that channeling is inherently more usefull in combat, but a good author could obviously prepare for that by letting Harry win through originality and intelligence. And by taking advantage of the kind of things channeling cannot (easily atleast) do. It should also be remembered that channelers don't know anything about magic (at first anyway) so many of the things he does would come as a total surprise. And finally, most people in WoT would probably assume (at first anyway) that he is some bizarre channeler and try to shield/sever him, which would obviously not work.

Though at the same time he should not be able to defeat those in WoT who are extremely skilled themselves such as Rand&Forsaken. Harry defeating say Rand or Ishamael would be kinda like Harry defeating Dumbledore. It would suck and disappoint the side of me that likes WoT.

I would say that if any channeler worth anything had managed to surround your neck with a weave, apparition would not help since you would already be dead. Why bother choking when you can just twist the head 180-degrees afterall.

I suppose anyone with any brains would quickly realise that the wand is required for magic from the way the wizard would be waving it around while casting spells. As for holding on to it tightly, weaves of air have been shown to have more power than human muscles so a channeler could rip it out no matter how tightly the wizard was holding.

Ofcourse that would imply that the wizard was either caught by surprise or that his defenses had been penetrated. If that is the case then the channeler could just as easily destroy the wand, or even destroy the wizard.

 

Well gee Datakim, don't make it sound like it is totally impossible for a wand wizard to win or anything. I still believe that an extremely powerful wizard could take down just about any channeler. I haven't read every book in the series, but have we ever seen a weave that rotates someone's head 180 degrees, or caused something to spontaneously combust?

As for defending against weaves, I'm sure that I've seen channeler combat. Surely there are shields that could be replicated, or even that HP magic would be able to affect weaves just as weaves can affect HP magic. You seem to think weaving is the be all end all of magics, while taking the position that it is undefendable. I could take this position on the HP side, and say that any shield would defeat any weave regardless of power, and none of those spells could be blocked except by physical objects, and even then if this is a different dimension Harry's magic may be powerful enough to push objects out of their way.

 

Yes. (Sorry )

In WoT we have several examples of weaves of air being used to manipulate objects with dexterity equal or even superiour to that of human hands. We also have examples of such weaves showing strength far superiour to that of human muscles. It would be a simple matter for to snap someones neck with such a weave. No special skills or weaves required.

In WoT, anything that can be done with hands can be done with weaves whether its lifting an object, poking someone in the eye, striking a blow to the stomach or in this case snapping a neck. This has been shown to be true.

As for causing someone to combust. This has been demonstrated by both Rand and the asha'man (though in fairness Rand used callandor). The Asha'man however did not use any artificial aids and they did it in the Dumai's Well scene. I would expect that Rand can do it unaided aswell now, and in a way he did in the latest book when he and a few other channelers annihilated an army of a hundred thousand trollocs.

I have always believed that HP magical shields would be able to protect against WoT weaves. I don't think I have ever claimed otherwise have I? If I did then it was a mistake on my part.

The basic idea why I believe channeling is better in combat is simply speed and stealth. Here read this quote:

The WoT books are filled with these kinds of scenes where Channelers strike with invisible(to the eye) weaves at great speed. So my argument is that in many cases the channeler will get a strike in before the wizard has a chance to cast a shield(or the moment he lowers it). And as the above quote (and many others) show, even being slightly touched by a weave is lethal.


EDIT addition: Ofcourse everything is upto the author, however if the author makes the channelers too stupid or ignores things they have been shown to do in the books then its not a very good crossover. I have said before that someone like Dumbledore should be able to take on the average channelers like the Aes Sedai, but after seeing some of the stuff the big channeler guys like Rand&Forsaken have done and the speed/efficiency they have done it with, I don't think even Dumbledore would win.

 

The idea of them also being able to just apparate out of a weave seems a little stupid as well. As a weave is it made, it certainly doesn't need to stay connected to a person, it can be tied to wherever it is used I believe. The only problem there was though was the fact that they always had to tie them in ways that would prevent other users of the one power from untying it.

I am sure if they didn't have to worry about it they could just put a simple loop knot near instantly, since HP magic wouldn't be able to undue it.