The problem here is you are looking at this from one perspective and I and Lyr are seeing it in another. She blamed me for her getting killed in CYS due to me choosing to target her with my unknown Battle ability and then Lexicat fucking off for 24 hours. I agree with that as the main source of why she died in CYS. And reading over those pages again over the past few minutes, you were also a helping hand in offing Lyrium, TYVM.

The second instance she out-and-out says that I murdered her when it was actually you. Why this is so hard to understand I don't know but I'm clearing my name of that mess and I'd appreciate it if anyone else would go back to around page 175-185 of CYS before blindly following TerRaine's misleading footsteps.

 

Titus had said he would've gone with Bane upthread, and as there was consensus on Penguin earlier I thought it worth weighing in.

 

@Kento -- Still reading but I'm here. Do you want me to read everything and respond first or ask your questions first?

 

Whilst posting numbers are worth noting, I would say that underestimates Zenzao (and, to a lesser extent, Atums) contribution to the thread. When he(/she) does post, they are decent ones - to compare his(/her) average post to, for example, mine is silly. It's not a invalid point, but not one that I think can be made on its own - he(/she) is hardly lurking.

 

@Kento -- Reading up now...Will see your questions at the end of my reading.

 

Yea.....and? I was scum then and she was not. How's that relevant to this game?

Once again.....why the emphasis? If you have something to say. Say it. I don't think this play ends how you think it ends zenzao

How can you sort their shit out if you don't know the resources at our disposal to do so?

And I've called each of those out for doing so. Saying but theyre doing it too! isnt a defense Zenzao. But I also said I'd drop this point because you said it was RL reasonings.

Unvoting because you feel bad and want to let things cool down is one thing. I didn't ask that. Why did your read of her change. I get that opinions change as the game goes on I am asking your for gameplay reasons your opinions changed.

Your reads shouldn't change because you feel bad for someone even if you choose to change your vote

Point out the post where I flipped zen. Post a number since you can't quote easily.

I have said and stuck by the opinion that it makes NO sense to save Crocs ability for later. I have said and stuck by the opinion that CROC was most likely roleblocked and it was odd you never considered that with 2 RB roles in the game.

Clay face had nothing to DO with this equation. His ability wouldnt be available til N2 given the ONLY dead person was Sloth who was Robin and he cant take his role

I've provided reasons for thinking she should be lynched. Some agree some don't. This isn't relevant or hypocracy. Try again.

Here you go. I said it was anti town because it IS anti town.

There is NO advantage to town for saying this. If you think I'm an investigative role to be protected then why would you draw ATTENTION TO ME.

Either your omgusing me for pressuring you OR you're hinting at what yout think my role is. If I happen to be an investigative role you just narrowed it down nice and tight for the GD Riddler Zen. Which would be a boon for Scum now wouldn't it?

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yea yea I know I said be back in a few hours...I'm waiting on my ride

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vote Zenzao

Even spelled your name right for you

 

@Mathblade
From my understanding you take your reads from a mostly game by game basis correct? Translating personality over to see if a person is either scum or town?

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Where can you get a beat on players whom you have never played against before such as myself, (I assume)his fluffiness, and (I assume)Quanksor?

 

Titus is a female. Second time I've corrected this on you dude.

Intentionally not quoting as a lot of the posts are long or would be quotey messes. This is a general response to all the posts.

1) I will try to find that post during Twilight
2) This looks to be Lyrium or Titus or a flash lynch if we lynch today. I'd want a lot of discussion and a general agreement that's the right direction if we do it.
3) *sigh* Eventually ya'll will see. If I end up dead tonight Citrus/Lyrium are town.
4) I'll be transparent right now that I am attempting to communicate things that will only make sense upon my death. Mostly I write my posts with a stream of consciousness and then add the bits in. Go back and assume I am dead and town. That may help.
5) I said my crumbs were the size of mansions. Seriously....If y'all don't see it just kill me. Oh wait. Do that anyway then conf towns exist and scum has a severely narrowed mislynch pool and is forced to bus earlier which will handicap Titus since she hates it.
6) Terraine there's over 50 pages in the day but I remembered that post towards the beginnning and it would have been quoted if the board didn't break. You saaid something like obviously wasn't used....
7) I think Zenzao is town.

#Titus/Q/Mala Scum

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Quanksor I have played with on FS. For him something is up I just don't know what.

Kento that is one thing I do sometimes. I also analyze night actions and day actions and try to see what role would do what and why. Notice during the night I flopped my read on Lyrium because I think scum are trying to frame her and I think still are trying to do so. I am more of an analysis player like I said earlier, I rarely study meta but I do use it if I know a player well enough.

While I haven't had a chance to play with you and fluffy and Mala I still do have to figure out what alignment ya'll are (town, scum, or 3P) but it is harder to do. I generally try to think about what newbies would do and compare against Atum's first game. So far nothing striking is coming up for you so I'd say town light for you but unsure.

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Next question dude?

 

Have you realized there have been two distinct posts where I have used kill instead of lynch and have read myself as null?

 

No I did not notice those. Link me please.

 

#1640,#1892

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I wanted to see if you would react to a supposed slip of the word kill over lynch, as well putting myself down as a lower scum read seemed a bit too obvious, so I bumped it up to a null.

 

Lyr raises the pokemon event, I counter and defend myself, you latch onto that defense like a rapid dog and won't drop it until you've cast me in as black a light as you can get away with. YOU WERE THERE. You, not I, are the one she should be referencing in her second post on the subject. I've given my point on the matter repeatedly now to settle this.

I just did. CYS is a crucial application to how a handful of us are playing this game.

Reading and trying to do analysis with what I've got available, cataloging the information provided by the moderator, and comparing that against how the Scum play the game.

You've been on me in particular instead of looking at Quanksor or Atum beyond one or two brief notations and then its back on doubtcasting me. And now that the point can be raised you're finally deflecting it because of RL, how convenient.

I already had Lyrium at town leaning null at the end of D1. Come D2 I did not have a much improved opinion of her going at you but I tried to set that aside and look back at things in light of SlothRobin's myslynch. Gradually I felt she was null as things progressed throughout D2, and part of that is Mathblade and Titus as much as her own swaying mood. I don't like the screaming gambit she raised either. I don't understand it and I don't want to chance something I don't understand. Quanksor is different. I haven't felt a single change in my reads on him even after Sloth, and I don't but Titus' reasoning that Sloth sacrificed himself to protect Quanksor.

Look back at the past five pages. You've slammed me repeatedly over this and I've given my own reasoning for why I did not consider our own RB's taking place.

FishyJustice and/or whoever may have been originally targeted as their NK N1 could have been role-snatched by Clayface as he was not Robin, the Committed player D1-end.

It is completely relevant as you've spent dozens of posts with minimal variance throughout the game(Lyr's Scum! Why don't you see that!) You want to say CYS material isn't relevant, then we can backlog all of your and Lyr's bitching D1 rolling into D2 as the same and moving the thread forward not at all, and since most of your Scumread of her stems from said bitching, those reads on her are not invalid.

Protective Role targets you. Riddler can't Commit you. Scum can't NK/Devour/Assimilate you.

:facepalm Nice. Really. At least you're off Lyr.

 

1640 = Not seeing what you are saying you did off hand. Looks like townie analysis.
1892 = Oh yeah I remember that one now..I ignored that post half way through your reads for having too many nulls. Never got to 17. That read wall is really weird. Bleh.

*makes a note to go through Kento's posts again later*

 

* you latch onto that defense like a rabbid dog

*and I don't trust Titus' reasoning that Sloth sacrificed himself to protect Quanksor.

*You want to say CYS material isn't relevant, then we can backlog all of your and Lyr's bitching D1 rolling into D2 as the same and moving the thread forward not at all, and since most of your Scumread of her stems from said bitching, those reads on her are now invalid.

 

Interesting gambit Kento. What do you think?

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And oh yeah Smart of you to ask questions Kento. Bring them on.

 

I think that you seem to be a well oiled machine in reads. Unfortunately you aren't taking the time out of your tunnel to expand on whom scum may also be.
This seems to me that you have an agenda. Not necessarily a scummy one, but that's the way I am seeing it come across.
The reasons I can remember that you gave for suspecting that Titus is Scum are that she self claimed, that there was a slip where she stated she wanted you killed, and that she has been crumbing it.
While I can't say anything about crumbs, as I don't very much see them myself, I can see if you are looking for slips, or a lynch target.

 

Hello people. Here are the current people with votes on them.

Lyrium (3): Quanksor, Titus, Qgqqqqq
Titus (5): Citrus, Atum, his fluffiness, Riley, MathBlade
Quanksor (3): Malakittens, Kento Kraitos, Zenzao
Zenzao (1): TerRaine

Not Voting (3): Snowvon, Lyrium, Rubicon

15 Alive, 8 to lynch

Could everyone try and make a case for their vote or actually vote for someone if you're not voting?

 

What are your opinions on the ghost players of this game thus far?
Riley, Citrus, Atum, his fluffiness, Quanksor, and to a small lesser extent, Snowvon and Myself.

 

Sorry for not participating much recently, Kento. There's been my brother who's been over, so I've had less time to post. I'll have more time in the next week now that I'm on vacation.

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If you want, after MB gives her reads, I'll give my opinions on the other ghost players.

 

Sure, it'll be good to hear.
I don't blame you for posting. I haven't been an exceptional amount either.