Well let's see 5 votes on me... Lyrium's never voted me so she must be my buddy... oh wait... Lyrium's confirmed town to you... so you must mean my town buddies.

Considering there's 4 scum and a Riddler, it makes sense all those NOT voting me are town. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Explain?

Each person's tongue has a unique print like their fingers

 

Now let's work with me claiming cop here a second.....If I am cop and screaming someone is town don't you think they are fucking town if I am the cop?!?!?!?!

So from your PoV I either crumbed cop and am town and QED Lyrium is town because I am the cop. This means your vote should not be on Lyrium

OR

You think I am a bullshit liar and should be lynched. Therefore your vote should not be on Lyrium.

OR C

You don't think I crumbed cop. Which makes you obv liar and scum and do what you want because you are scum.

QED You are not playing to what you are typing. QED Scum.

 

Bad idea but let's talk. I can see why your vote is on Riley. I can't see why you think I'm scum or why you don't think Lyrium is.

Mechanically, Lyrium is all but condemned regardless of behavior. I'll type it out, sentence for sentence if you'd like.

1) The hidery person should be acting Night 1 as scum have zero fake claims as of the moment.
2) The hidery person failed to act.
3) Logically, this means they were blocked rather than electing not to act.
4) The blocker(s) would know this and argue for that person being scum since the start of the day and stay there.
5) The only person who has had that happen is Lyrium.

As such, Lyrium is pretty much confirmed scum.

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I think you're a liar, and lynching Lyrium is a two for one special. Plus, if I'm wrong, we can still have a cop. Plus, we can argue I'm dumb at crumbs because I'm Titus thus cop lives.

 

Lyrium thinks you are scum and is running a gambit. She said so earlier.

I was looking for defense. Not votes. Stop putting words in my mouth.

 

Plus you leave out fake crumbing as town, which admittedly is possible as well. I did give you the chance to spend your chip on Lyrium. You failed to do so because you want to be 100% sure on two people and you can't while pretending to be the Question.

 

Or they chose to do suboptimal play or they didn't submit their action as they were inactive. Remember Kalas prodding for actions at EoD. That could have been scum.

What are you going to do when Lyr flips town huh? LYRIUM IS TOWN.

 

Please. *eyeroll* You've said everyone should be voting me and anyone who isn't voting me is scum. Don't pretend like you are looking for defense.

Lyrium actually has been running a gambit on TerRaine being scum. That was why she asked me if I would go after her lynch target if she flipped town. You don't ask that of a scum read.

 

Honey you are the person who said I crumbed cop. I never said I crumbed cop.

 

And therefore it must be true!

 

Push you for not defending your townread but being willing to hammer her instead. I'm still waiting for specific gameplay reasons why Lyrium is town.

Flail. Anyone CAN be stupid but the mechanics scream Lyrium is scum. Is it 100% certain? No but I'm pretty sure it's likely at this point.

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Riiight... your response to my statement was CRUMBS as big as mansions... :S or non-sense. Stop walking backwards.

Defend your townreads. Argue why I'm scum. Use more than meta or jokes. I'll be waiting.

 

I already did argue. You just call it not arguing.

I am taking a break to get some work done. Going in circles isn't helping.

 

Math, how are you so sure that Lyrium is Town? Because, I have to admit, she's not one of my town reads.

 

Then I'm sure you can link to specifc reasons (here's a hint 1050 isn't that) and make me look like an ass. However, multiple people, myself TerRaine Q and Rubicon all have found your Lyrium read to be unexplained. So you might want to make us look like asses. That is unless you want to argue the entire scumteam finds your reasoning lacking.

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Add his fluffiness to the ninja...

 

Titus, independent of Lyrium being blocked, why is she scum? Because if that's all you've got then I'm not buying it.

I fell for everyone's scumread of Lyrium in CYS so you're gonna need a compelling case to get me to even consider lynching her.

 

I forgot Qqqq as well... poor guy...

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Alright, I do feel that's pretty damn compelling but I'll set that aside.

Her behavior, she's asked me to consider lynching her reads. She's bending over backwards to have us follow her onto TerRaine as scum based on what? I can't see it. Anytime Lyrium has been questioned, new inconsistencies in logic show up in her statements.

She's been pushing for claims and outing people to the Riddler. That's a BAD idea. She was pushing Quank who is obviously town to claim. We don't need people claiming at this point.

Her attitude seems to be much less aggressive than in other games. In CYS, she played suboptimally. Yes, she was mislynched. People get mislynched.

I also find it interesting that people are not wanting to mislynch Lyrium because of what happened and ignore the fact I was mislynched in the same game. I even had an innocent claim on my behalf.

Lyrium hasn't been productive for the town at all. She's had one read and tunnelled it to death and worked exclusively towards lynching that one read rather than communicating or scumhunting.

 

Sorry about that, I went to a page or two previous, searched Vote: and Vote(&nbsp) and made up the chart. Didn't think about the unvotes.

-I think the Lyrium wagon is a dangerous game. Something that should be thought about. Completely disregarding that thought process, of the two I think this is the better one. There are arguments why she is thought to be scum, and in my mind the gambit of voting for yourself is linked with the game that people linked in. The one where Sloth voted himself and turned out to be scum.

-For the Titus wagon. I can only feel MathBlade pushing for it. I understand that from her point of view Titus is scum due to the crumbs she's dropping, that's she's playing scum!Titus not town!Titus(This is the correct usage of this right?), and that she needs to be lynched so as to not aid her scum buddies.
From my point of view though, I don't get it. I don't see any crumbs in threads other then the neon signs, I don't know the difference between her scum games and her town games. I do agree that if she's scum she needs to be lynched faster then others. From Lyriums mention of her back in day one she seems to be a scum force to be reckoned with along with the likes of Sloth and Citrus.

I have explained my gripes with Quanksor before. There has almost quite literally been no real new information since.
-He brings about Mass-Claim
-Doesn't bring meantion of Clayface
-Has been absentee
-When present ignores questions

While I agree with the thought process that this playstyle is something that no scum would go about doing. It does ring bells in my head that this is something that a semi experienced mafia player would do to blatantly throw suspicion from himself.

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Also thanks Rubicon and Titus for explain the acronyms.

 

What do you find unpersuasive about my case?

I will admit though since Citrus isn't here that Lyrium's passivity is debatable.


@Kento, I wasn't here for massclaim. I also haven't seen Quank ignore questions. Why don't you put what questions he's missed in a post and give him a chance to defend himself? This game has been moving at a pace where it is hard for you to keep up, maybe the same applies for him.

What is your point of "doesn't mention Clayface"? What is the deal with the massclaim thing?

As for scum!Player and Town!Player, I believe your use is accurate. You use those terms to convey a hypothetical. Stating "Town!Titus" does this... = Titus does this as town.

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@Von, I also forgot Lyrium's bald face assertion that Croc wasn't blocked. That helps her because she doesn't want the Green Arrow and Batman to play optimally and tunnell her. To bad they are.

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@All, when is the deadline? I need to make my schedule for the next few days?

 

Internet is down for me, and doesn't look like it will restore in the foreseeable period. I'm typing up why I think Lyrium is scum (a treatise) in the meanwhile, and will use phone data to post it when the time comes (though it will obviously suffer from a kack of ability to include links/quotes). In the meanwhile, I cant really keep up to date or anything.

 

I'm read up to here now. I have stuff to do but I can explain this real... relatively fast before making a late supper.

The way I see it there are many possibilities.

1) TerRaine and Lyrium are both town. Town mis-lynches and TerRaine claims, Riddler kills.

2) TerRaine and Lyrium are both town. Town mis-lynches and TerRaine claims not her role. Role person leads a scum wagon vs TerRaine leading to possible second mislynch.

3)TerRaine scum, Lyrium town. Town mis-lynches, TerRaine doesn't claim gets lynched next day.

4)TerRaine town, Lyrium scum. Town lynches, is a huge bonus to TerRaine's town cred.

5)TerRaine scum, Lyrium scum. Town lynches, is a huge bonus to TerRaine's town cred.

6)TerRaine scum, Lyrium scum. Town lynches, someone still wants TerRaine to claim, mis-claim scum wagon lynch.

Best possible scenario two scum get the boot. Worst case scenario two town get the boot. It's what? 3/7th the way though our time? I'd rather have more chat in before there is a possibility that two town people get killed.

Possibility three includes if Quanksor claims and he's town.

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Halfway though this post I realize that the sentence was your random fact. I thought you wanted my opinion because the way I type is as unique as the way I speak. XD