Riley, one more time, are you sure there's no typo, guess or anythin like that in your claim?

 

Ditto, @Moridin

@Citrus
Serously? If my level of participation is not enough, than I need to replace out. I literally can't post more time on this without it affecting my life. This wasn't my favorite time to play, anyway.
But, tbh, I feel like I have been just as active as always, and nobody has yet complained. If it's the quality of my posts than you should be able to say something about it.
Anyway Sloth is scum, ika is scum, Zeit was scum and given that scum have daykill, I can imagine a 3-player scum + 3rd party.

A 4th scum will probably be one out of (moridin, Irdiumstern, Custer, Riley, Lucky) by elimination.
I am townreading Riley though and I don't think Custer would bus both his teammates. Reading Lucky is hard, but I'm not feeling the scummy vibe and claiming vig directly after dayvig is a bit too ballsy for him, in my opinion.
If Sloth turns out not to be scum I would focus on Custer.

I don't really know how I am supposed to fulfill the burden of proof with no accusation.

 

Blab, people are poeing you because longer posts people subconsciously associate with town. I see scumhunting in your posts.

I would shoot Riley before you but I hink Custer and Ird are MUCH better targets than either of you.

 

Wait, what? Sloth received gold? I must have missed this. Link please?

 

No slips, I am Town Auditor, Fonti had 4 gold when I checked her night 1. If you feel the need to shoot me, you're only helping scum at this point.

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Moridin I don't know where you got the idea that Sloth received gold.

 

From here.

 

Riley, why didn't you check the order of operations before posting? You would know, if honest, there is a missing gold.

 

@Rubi,

Can you explain where you see Fonti as townreading Lee?
You mentioned part of it is because you Townread him a while back, but that doesn’t mean anything: According to you, I’m Town, and Fonti went down as sure of my scumminess as Titus was in Avatar.

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@Lee

…so I shouldn’t expect and answer to this then? -__-
Also, you said you’d shoot whoever Town said. Now you’re asking for reads and explanations.
This is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask, however you’re making it sound like you’ll be the one making the final decision, not the Town. Is that what you’re saying?

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@Blab
a) what’s straw-manning? I’m assuming it’s something like, drawing strings or leading people through strings or whatever? If not, correct me.
That quote was actually in reply to Rubicon, asking me if I had shot Fonti. Read back. I showed it to Lee because the bolded parts contain what I still find to be a strong Town argument, coupled by the fact he decided I was a nullread instead out of nowhere (making me think he was faking that outburst to get a reaction and never thought of shooting me to begin with).
I see no point in trying to convince someone who’s doesn’t think I’m scum that I’m not scum. Granted, he doesn’t think I’m Town, but if he did, that’d be more alarming to me, coming from him.

b) I’d give you that except as I keep stating: DKing at this time, much less DKing Fonti, would have just been incredibly stupid in my eyes. Even with Titus’ points, I had no way of knowing ika would defend me, and I don’t like relying on unknowns. Plus it’s simply smarter to hold off on using such a useful ability.

Give a case on me. I actually wonder if you read my posts at all since most of #177 has been addressed and debated (specially your points, right in the next post. By the way, in this post you also have me in a Zennith scumteam?), so I want to see if you have anything actually recent. I feel by this point, you should at least have some doubts after 20+ pages of posts where most seem to at least not be 100% convinced of my alignment.

You, to me, have been a mostly null read, so I’m not sure what Citrus or Rubi will say.
Except for this:

I don’t care how it looks for me to bring this up, pretend I’m Rubi or whatever.
Ok, so when we all as Town have decided to decide together who’d be the best Vig target.
When the majority is more or less settled between irdium, custer and you (btw, excellent sacrifice you’re making here “yes, I’m willing to die for Town when I already had a 1 in 3 chance of dying toNight anyway, so long as we take Sloth!”).
You choose to go “nope! Screw what you all want, lynch Sloth.”
Right. Sounds Townish.

But whatever, like I said, I’m fine bowing out if it helps Town. I’d rather it’d actually be more helpful that this bit of melodramatic stupidity, but that’s why we’re debating.

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@Riley

…Riley, God…damn it. -__-
Why do you think I’ve been so insistent in Lee answering my question? Fun?
He never stated flat out how much he got, and his answer goes a long way in me deciding what to make of him. But I can’t trust that answer if you keep shedding light to reasoning and letting him figure out was the Town response.
Please stop talking about it.
Argh. Though not sure I should even bother waiting, what with this and Lee’s kthxbye.

If it makes you feel better, I definitely think you’re Town now.

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Also, @Titus

Wait wait wait, are you saying that this jester role might NOT be scum? Are we still in the realm where town!Ika is a possibility?

…fantastic, Sloth said with heavy sarcasm.

OK, shift in the vig shot idea. If I got this right, we’re having Lucky hit both targets of our choosing, correct? It’s not a choice between one or the other?
If so, we need to be having two discussions…
Targets if ika flips scum.
Targets if ika flips town.

Scum!ika: My first vote’s on Irdium, I’ve stated numerous times why.
My second…Custer seems the second most popular, can someone give me a wall for why? He’s only posted 8 times, and its suspicious, but the content itself seems pro-town. The biggest problem was #266, trying to get a feel for the limits of Zennith’s ability.
Second is Blab, and I haven’t really looked into his posts closer. He seems like a dog with a bone and doesn’t care what anyone else says. Granted, I play like that, but I’m always revamping my refreshing my arguments and he’s still going on about the beginning of the game, where it the scum team to love was Zennith/Zeit/Me.
I’m waiting for some arguments on Custer, but otherwise, I’d go with Blab (oh no, voting for Blab? Surely I must be scum now).

Town!ika: Easy: Irdium and Citrus. If ika is Town, either Zennith or Citrus HAVE to be scum. Citrus seems more likely at this point and if he too flips Town, we know it’s Zennith.
People in jail are apparently immune to NK’s and roleblocked, but given that it’s been stated Zennith could be NK’d today, I assume he isn’t, and ika and Citrus, who are also permanent residents of the jail (and not roleblocked), also are not. Why Vig him instead of lynch him? We don’t waste 73 hours on an obvious vote (or we do do so, voting for Zennith), and the sooner we remove scum ears from Jail, the better.

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...huh? Fonti set it up to send me gold after her death?

I think he's saying I got gold and didn't say anything.

 

@Sloth, Jester would be third party. I don't think ika can be ton.

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Don't be too quick to townread Riley.

 

Cirtus: we can discuss that post game or i will leave it in QT.

 

That's... exactly what Citrus seems to be saying wouldn't make sense.

Citrus, please clarify what you meant?

 

Sloth intercepting makes more sense bc if Riley is telling the truth AND Lucky got the same message as me, scum have a way of interfering with gold passing.

 

Wait, I'm confused. Can you walk me through this? What message did both you and Lee get? And how does it prove that there is gold-passing interference, at least on my side?
Also, if you both got a message, why didn't Zennith?

 

I received a mod notification. You got gold source unknown. Beyond that, no message.

There is no proof you intercepted gold. I want to hear from Riley, but I may explain in jailchat. Riley should be fishing for a missing gold claim.

 

That's the same as I got, Titus. One good, from someone, with no more information beyond that and my now total gold count.

 

There is a missing gold Titus, I already pointed that out as one of the options. I was hoping someone would post something before you mentioned what was said in the notification so we could match it up to yours and Zennith, I guess that's out of the bag now.

 

No. You shouldn't be going back and forth between options. You should know how much gold Fonti had going into today. Was it three or four?

 

I checked in the night, she had 4. That's how much she had, I've already said that like four times. The options are for what happened to the fourth gold. Are you blind?

 

Not blind. The Fonti spending gold option should not have even crossed your mind.

 

I missed zennith claiming to receive gold so I didn't account for that, but that's not necessary as the point of Fonti having 4 gold has never changed. I've repeated that in every post I made in which there was a list of options.

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Because there are no day abilities that require gold, right Titus