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Brass & Tax Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Prophylaxis, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Riley is obvtown. He's mislynched in like every game he plays, this will just be another on that list.

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    Riley, please unvote ika for now.
     
  2. Titus

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    Rubi, we will need to talk tomorrow about Riley. Rather than socratic you, it is probably more time effective for you to finish your notes incase of a scum quickhammer.
     
  3. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I don't know what socratic means in this context, but I am working on my notes. If you're worried about a scum quickhammer you shouldn't be voting ika.
     
  4. Riley

    Riley Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    unvote ika
     
  5. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    @Rubi
    Agreed, mostly. I do see the potential gain of seeing what Lee’s answer is, even taking into account the possible lie.

    Not that I’m as confident about it now that there’s been so much talk on what the possible answers could be. Sigh.
    Anyway, #768, please.

    By the way, am I missing something? Day ends at…

    …the HELL? Did we get an extra day? I KNOW that thing used to say March 28.

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    @Titus
    This is a closed set up, I honestly have no clue.

    What I do know is that we’ve had people with such random abilities crop up everywhere: The fact that I’m new would explain why I’ve never heard of half of them, except that others like Rubi have seemed weirded out by thinks like Zennith’s jailkeeping role.
    Why wouldn’t there be others? The assumption that there isn’t is what’s dangerous to me.

    This is in direct contrast to your idea of ika being jester (a non-town, non-scum player, i.e. a third party).

    By the way, a note: If ika indeed flips as third party, and there’s three people in jail, doesn’t it make sense for there to be one Town, one Scum, one TP?

    What’s the innocent child? I assume it’s a role, but what does it do?

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    @Riley
    Riley, everyone gets a Last Will, and I would assume it’d be standard procedure for everyone to have one ready in case we die. Are you saying you don’t?

    I really don’t think Fonti wouldn’t have used hers and saying “unless she stated it, we don’t know she did” is akin to saying “unless they state it, we don’t know that a non-Town were responsible for Possum’s death.”
    Your theory relies on Fonti not doing something any Town would do first thing, and the scum somehow knowing she wouldn’t. Or at least the three of them claiming gold without worries of someone calling them on it.
    It just doesn’t work, unless scum also has a Last Will Block equivalent, and they’re overpowered as is.

    Well, then we turn around and start looking at your targets. Congrats, you helped Town.

    Plus you get bragging rights post-game. Relax.

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    @Maiden
    …I don’t know what it is exactly, but most of your posts lately seem like you’re rehashing something someone’s already said, or agreeing with someone else.
    Anyone else think that?

    How about you do a wall on Custer and Blab. Why them?

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    WE'RE AT IKA L-2. NO ONE ELSE VOTE ON HIM.

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    Also, back on the imporant topic,

    Irdium seems fine. Does anyone have any disagreements for why he shouldn’t be one of the tow?

    Riley…still seems derp!Town. He’s getting so fed up and frustrated, I half-think that if he had been scum, he’d have just exploded and declared it by now.
    He also seems to not have closely read the rules, and why would scum ever do that?
    Plus, he has said a few things that made sense, just not recently.
    My thoughts on Riley are that if no one we vig or lynch today/Night is scum, then we should be looking at him. Otherwise he’s not a priority.

    Still waiting on a case on Custer. Is it just his absence?

    And I mentioned what I want from Blab.

    We apparently have a lot more time than I thought, but don’t let this one slip, guys. I want Lee to have no excuses.
     
  6. Titus

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    @Sloth, I am not ruling out third party. Jester is most likely bc it is mentioned in the first post. Do I find it likely, no. I was just hoping the group would be familiar with it to reassure me. I wouldn't vote ika if I thought he was 3rd party jester.

    Innocent child is a role that can self-confirm as town at any time. The mod will then post the player is town. The fact the mod didn't confirm ika using that makes it highly unlikely.

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    We also got an extra day due to dayvig.

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    Custer = absence + pushing the same theory as known scum + having no substantial contributions when he is here

    That's what it is FMPOV.
     
  7. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    Wait am I still voting myself?

    I lost track of vote count
     
  8. Titus

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    Once Rubi posts his notes, I would be fine with the day ending as their is not much more to discuss.

    We can have one of our mystery slots hammer ika, just in case he's a supersaint as they can't avoid the thread to avoid hammering.
     
  9. ika

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    Theres always more to discuss. Like how the person who hammers me will die.

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    By jester? By super saint? By vengeful?

    Or will I just strike again and dayvig and cause a bigger extension?
     
  10. Prophylaxis

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    Vote Count 2.1
    (8 to lynch)

    ika (5): ika, Luckylee, Titus, Citrus, Maiden
    Riley Poole (1): Titus

    Abstain (Eight) Rubicon, Zennith, Sloth, blab, Irdiumstern, Custer, Moridin, Riley Poole

    Custer has been prodded and has ~20 hours to respond.
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2014
  11. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    unvote

    becasue my vote should be somewhere else
     
  12. Maiden

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    I did some digging and discovered that Prophy has used the wording "eliminate all threats" when there were just two parties. In 'High Noon Mafia', it was simply "town vs. scum" and the wording of the OP was "eliminate all threats." Thus, we can't rely on the wording.
    Personally, I still think that there is a third party, but the wording is irrelevant.

    @Sloth: Working on my thoughts about Blab and Custer. Will post ASAP, but I'm cooking dinner, so it might be a while.
     
  13. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Yawn
    Jailchat is useless til ika is gone
    I don't think there's much more to do today. I too am good with a hammer whenever all players are comfortable. I sincerely doubt he's a supersaint etc but better safe than sorry
     
  14. Titus

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    We can have Custer hammer.
     
  15. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    ....Sigh. Ok, I'll ask since no one's explaining:
    What's a supersaint?

    Also, I'm fine with hammering AFTER we give Lee two PRECISE NAMES for him to shoot. As far as I've seen, we haven't.

    So, Irdium and whom? I mentioned I have similar reads on either of the other targets, so I'm fine with what the majority wants, but we have to state it beyond the shadow of a doubt.
    Are we going with Custer or are we letting him come back and post now that Prophy's issued a warning?
     
  16. Maiden

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    Still working on wallpost. *Yawn* Have to head to bed soon--busy day tomorrow.
    I think this is a Captain obvious thing to say, but I'd still like to say that I think there is a third party. The idea of a town member with the ability to double vote, as well as a Townvig just seems like too much power for us to have.
    I'll say it loud and clear: Titus and/or Luckylee is either scum or third party.
    At least one of them has to be.
    Titus FEELS towny to me, and Luckylee has given us nothing to work with today. If I had to choose (and ignore the idea of a third party), I'd say that Lucky's the scum. For now. Still debating/thinking on this.
     
  17. Titus

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    A supersaint is a role that kills the last voter on its train. I doubt Prophy included it but I am paranoid at this point given ika's absolute willingness to be lynched.

    I have a very broad knowledge of roles.
     
  18. Maiden

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    Just curious, at one point, people were saying that Moridin is conf!scum, because of a slip about Citrus' (I think) role and a possible snitch in the jail chat. Is everyone still thinking this? I'm a little confused, tbh.
     
  19. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Maiden, that wasn't a slip by me. I linked a post by Ika where he revealed that each of the jail members had unique abilities.

    As far as third party goes, I'm not convinced. It's a possibility, sure, even a good idea given how gold would interact with third parties as they try to skirt attention from both town and scum, but there's really little evidence at this point to suggest it's a thing. As for one of those two being scum, sure. I'd say Titus is town based on her play, and Lucky vice versa, but either one could be playing the long game.

    As for NKing Custer, I'm not so sure. If he's prodded and shows up, great, we can see what he posts. If not, he either gets replaced and we can discuss with the new guy, or he gets modkilled. Only in the last case is NKing him still viable.

    I'd say the two options on the table are blab and Riley. Personally, I'd go with blab. What are your thoughts?
     
  20. Maiden

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    It's a little scattered brained, as I am currently, but here is my analysis on Custer:
    (@Sloth: Sorry, I'll one on blab tomorrow)

    If blab and Custer end up being Town, then we should look at Rubicon, because he's been driving pretty hard for them. (Not that I have room to talk.)

    Custer Analysis: I didn't realize that it's been THAT long since he's posted (regarding Prophy's post about him being nudged). I was thinking that he's been lurking, but maybe something legitimately been happening in his personal life. Also, when digging further for posts by Custer, I found that he said:

    "And yes, I realize that apologizing for lurking is seen as having a guilty conscience, but I [bold]HATE[/bold] when people lurk their way through games. It is a personal peeve of mine, being someone who watches these games primarily]"--Post 230, pg. 12
    Obviously, he could be lying to get himself some credibility. In his post, it seemed more like fluff than anything else. He talked a little about Titus, commending her for splitting her vote, and giving a nullread. Nothing on Rubicon and a small theory (if you could call it that) that Lucky is a Derp!Town and that he'd want to lynch him just so he doesn't have to read his posts.
    The biggest thing I can take away from this post is that he said that Zennith could be scum and voted for Zennith, which is interesting, since Zennith has a slight scumread as far as I'm concerned.
    (Sorry that this is too detailed, and it's a lot to read, but I didn't want to just say "Custer hasn't posted much and the few posts he does have are mostly fluff.")
    For a while, his only posts weren't too relevant. After that was to ask Ird how many games he's played and where. I'm not sure why that's relevant, but maybe it was relevant to him?
    [Speaking of which, where is Ird? Is it me or have we not seen him all day? Is he lurking?]
    -Also, asked if Zennith's ability protected from lynches, but I don't even think that's possible. Fluff question?
    -He also posted, accusing Zeit/Zennith/Sloth of being the scum team, but with no reasoning to back it up whatsoever. Also, after this, Zeit was already confirmed scum. So that makes this even more useless.

    He did have two posts on 3/26, saying that we might have three parties in this game, because of the wording of the OP. Irrelevant information now (as far as I'm concerned), but it wasn't at the time. Otherwise, nothing of relevance, other than thinking that Titus might be a third party or scum.

    I've looked and I'm 98% certain that he hasn't posted since then.

    Bottom line: He's posted almost nothing of use with nothing to back it up. I am a little worried now that he's been nudged, as this means he might not be lurking intentionally. Either that or he has a hell of a poker face. (I have noticed some guests viewing the thread. Could be him, but that's a long shot.) Either way, all we have to do is wait and see.

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    Thank you for the clarification. :3

    Are you asking me my thoughts? (I'm going to guess yes, and answer. XD)
    I get this slippery feeling from blab. I'm going to try and do a full analysis tomorrow as per Sloth's request, and hopefully, I'll get to the bottom of this.
    I have a townread on Riley though. Him revealing his role gave me his trust, though that can change. For now, townread on Riley.

    What are your thoughts on Citrus?
     
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