While you make good points, one's that I'm sure most of us agree on, can you point out a HP/DC cross that is any better than TJ?

 

Nope. All of them are shit.

 

I rest my case, though I can't help but wonder why there aren't more crosses in the DC and Marvel universes. Both have magic as reoccurring plots, and both have characters who are strictly magical. It isn't too far fetched to think that they would have interactions with the wizarding world at some point.

 

I think part of the reason is that people are intimidated by the sheer volume of backstory that comes with working with the comics. They're big, developed worlds in their own right and even if you have a good understanding of them it'd be so easy to screw up.

That said, I'd love to read a superhero!Harry that isn't a crossover. I mean, he's got all the requirements to be a hero - the power, the murdered parents, the desire to help people but not be acknowledged for it.

 

One of the major things about JKR's wizarding world is the statute of secrecy. It doesn't matter how it came into play, but performing magic in front of muggles will get you kicked out of the world.

Magical superheros on the other hand, are media whorez. Hell, all superheros appear in mewspapers/the internet on a semi-regular basis. Most often using their powers. Their only worry about secrecy is to ensure their actual identity stays secret (for the most part).

 

I would like to point out the post further back, where we all told Jor that we didn't care if it was 100% accurate.

Not to sound stupid, but I thought JKR only built up the British wizarding society. She never mentions the rest of the world.

 

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It's called the International Statute of Secrecy, OG.

 

@OG - I read that post but I think my original point still stands.

 

I've been reading this thread for a while and figured it was time to chip in my two cents.

Terminal Justice is probably the best one I've read, in the beginning at least. Right around the midway point and the introductions of Raven and Tim Hunter, it loses it for me. It was a good story that went on too long. Still, I always get a laugh out of "You burned Santa Claus?!".

After that would probably be Invincible Technomage. It's definitly my favorite one marvel x-over, and I do enjoy Clells writing 99% of the time. It also has some hilarious moments and it actually seems to have a plot.

Ascention of Ra was good, but I barely remember it.

I was thinking of my own idea for a HP/Marvel/DC X-Over actually. The plot would be this:

It has it's flaws, but I think it's workable. Thoughts?

 

Which Fudge uses for his own purpose during book 5. Point is, as long as the 'muggles' don't discover the wizarding world, or they think the magic is a mutation, everything should be fine. Oh and international doesn't mean every nation, just more than one. Like IHOP is the 'International' house of pancakes.

 

I hate my phone.

No. Just no. You are talking about an immense number of people not able to see each other. Lets ignore the gaping mass of fail that the premise is for a moment, what about the public? Are they affected? Superheroes show up in the media all the time, are DC people somehow unable to see stories about Marvel people?
Lets ignore that too, then. What about those events that are city wide, planet wide, or even universe wide and occur every fifteen minutes?
And what about universe specific cities like Gotham and Metropolis? Marvel heroes dont know they exist?

To sum up, invisiblity is a retarded way to go about your story. My advice is to pick one universe and contain your creativity in that.

 

There are one of two ways to create successful crossovers.

1. Use the Alternate Dimension Trope. A Portal, god, ritual gone wrong, or whatever that drops one or two characters into the dimension that you are writing about. But don't use a portal (ala the Veil of Death), because it's overused and very lame. Don't make a big gigantic 10,000 word scene trying to explain it, because it's been done and it never works. Some douchebag has to come along and point out all the ways you broke the laws of physics, or rules of magic, eventually making you look like an idiot.

I've always been a big fan of, "I don't know how I got here, but here I am. So, fuck you, canon-physics-jerk-offs." Just add some burnt clothes and a physically exhausted dimensional traveler with short term memory loss and you have your valid indisputable reason for them to be in the alternate dimension.

2. If possible begin the shared universe in the current one. Ex: Metahumans start popping up in the HP universe. Considering DC's New 52 this is very workable. All the meta-heroes are brand new and the Earth's governments are trying to figure out a way to control them. This also has the advantage of challenging the Statute of Secrecy and ultimately eliminating it without a large amount of hassle.

I'm personally using number 2.

 

@Heather:
You posting that in the WbA here, or have you got private betas?

 

There was another thread that I spoke about writing a Master of Death!Black Lantern!Harry. I couldn't get past the Godlike!Harry aspect so I dumped it. However, I still wanted to write a Comic crossover and this thread gave me some new ideas -- either a Supergirl or a Wonder Girl cross. Since I'm just starting it, I haven't decided. When I do, I'll post the first chapter on WbA to get general reactions if it should be continued.

 

I'm glad that a thread I started, just because I was enjoying some guilty pleasure reading, has contributed, in any way, to a story taking place. I wish you the best of luck and shall be sitting in WbA mashing the F5 key until its there.

 

hmmm.... I worked on a Marvel/HP crossover years ago. This was before I even knew what DLP was, and my writing back then was more or less crap. I had about three chapters planned out, and a couple of pretty good ideas, if I remember right. And Uatu was in it.

Maybe I'll try to finish it when I have time.

 

Go for Supergirl, and this isn't just because I have a newfound love for Harry and Kara.

Supergirl is linked with a lot of the DC universe's heroes through either family (Superman) or friendship/surrogate family (Batman) - using her as a catalyst for Harry's introduction to said world would be smooth and efficient, if the relationship/friendship between her and him isn't forced.

However on the other hand, Wonder Woman/Diana is linked with the Amazons, who are in turn closely linked to the Greek gods/goddesses - getting them to work with what's known about such 'gods' in the Harry Potter universe may be a bit of a pain (such as Circe in both 'universes'), but rewarding in the end, as the resulting story would have deep and rich character interaction.

Either way, it's all golden.

 

This is true, in old cannon. Something to keep in mind. I'm using the DC's New 52 to introduce Harry into the mix.

Supergirl shows up five years later, after the Justice League is formed, etc. and she doesn't know squat. She can't even speak the language yet in new canon. I can see Harry finding her before Superman comes on the scene and then take it from there. That's one of my ideas.

My other idea was for Wonder Girl. aka Cassie Sandsmark. In the new canon, she's a thief that broke into a Greek archeological dig and stole the magic bracelets, put them on, and *poof* Wonder Girl, with no connection to anyone but herself.

For that one, I was going to alter it a bit and have Harry stepping in as she steals them from an exhibit in London. This way she has that Catwoman vibe. It would be more of an eventual chase to America where they eventually hook up with Robin (who is hunting down all the meta's he can find in the Teen Titans comics before the bad guys do.) there's your connection to Batman and eventually the Justice League if need be.

Either way, I'm still outlining two stories and figuring out which will be better suited to my writing style. I kinda feel a need to bring Sarcastic!Harry out of retirement.

 

Wonder Girl? Never heard of her, quick too Google (insert classic batman transition). Ah I now I get it, however couldn't you pull old cannon cross by using Selina Kyle(Catwoman) instead? Perhaps she steals a Golden Griffin statue from the London Museum that was originally donated there by (insert OC name here) Potter. So Harry pursues one of the last artifacts of his family to Gotham. Now you have your Batman ref, and if she runs through metropolis you get superman/girl as well. From there it isn't too much of a stretch to get the JLA involved.

 

LOL, again, (third time, I think) I'm using DC's New 52 as a backdrop for this story. It's a new world, for those not in the know.

Metahumans are just now coming into their powers, some heroes have been around for a while, just in hiding. Batman and his cohorts were only rumors and Supergirl just now came to Earth, totally clueless. So she's in China, not Metropolis.

Catwoman is currently being boned by Batman and reading tentacle porn in Gotham. I shit you not.




This isn't going to be an all-star cast story to see how many superheroes I can cram into a chapter, like Terminal Justice. It's going to have an actual plot to it that from time to time will have a Superhero popping in. If I go with Cassie, then Kara will pop in and probably become a regular. If I go with Kara, Cassie will probably pop in and do the same. But no threesomes... maybe, probably not... I wouldn't do that.