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Gay Dumbledore

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sporangia, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. Lucullus

    Lucullus High Inquisitor

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    Dumbledore isn't gay. I've read through all 2000+ pages of the series and not once they they even hint that he was gay.

    I'm sorry for not taking the ramblings of the obviously cracked up author to heart. Even more justified to do so if she wasn't on crack but just, as some have mentioned, did this to continue gaining media attention or to attempt to keep her fans interested (not that we are losing interest in the first place).
     
  2. Skeletaure

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    I really wish she had finished all 7 books before they got published. That way, they would have been pure Harry Potter and wouldn't have been twisted by JKR's fame.

    As soon as she got famous, she felt the need to turn the story into a moral tale and insert as much allegory as possible into the books. This is the same. JKR goes political. Grrrr.
     
  3. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Meh. Doesn't bother me really.

    I don't plan on reading or writing a story that needs to go into Dumbledore's love life anyway. If an author wants to make Dumbledore straight, it won't bug me me. If the author wants to keep Dumbledore gay, its not going to change the story, and if it does change the story, I shouldn't be reading it.

    Doesn't really change how I see Dumbledore either really. He was always a strange old man, powerful, but strange. Now that he is attracted to men, it doesn't disturb this, or mean that I am going to be reading stories of how Dumbledore and Grindel are going to be getting it on.
     
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  4. Warlocke

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    I can't help but agree.

    LOL, that would make Remus an even bigger, more gutless dick. Not only did he and Tonks not have the decency to elect at least one out of the pair of them to stay behind and, oh I don't know, stay alive for the sake of their newborn child, but if he were gay too... Good job on that whole Tonks thing, Remus. Way to keep up appearances, you cold, calculating bastard.

    "I'm already publicly known as a werewolf. I don't have what it takes to be part of more than one oppressed group at a time."

    Ditto. I can't remember what the story was at all and, that being the case, odds are it sucked pretty bad.
     
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  5. Evil Shnitzel

    Evil Shnitzel High Inquisitor

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    Now we know why Dumbledore was so trusting in Snape... lols
    But many people here have a point -the image of awesome character from the books is damaged by this revelation.....
     
  6. Hahukum Konn

    Hahukum Konn Fourth Year

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    Dumbledore as cliché. Who'd a thunk it. :)

    Seriously, though, the thing that concerns me is that now that JKR has said this people will be tempted to put Dumbledore in a box and slap a label on him and stop thinking about the complexities of a very long life lived over a time period of tremendous change (even in the wizarding world).

    So instead of asking what Dumbledore might have done to make himself as powerful and well-respected as he is in Harry Potter's time we'll see far too much fanfic with badly written Albus/Gellert slapped into it, most of which won't even take the time period into account (1899-1900).

    I mean, what did Dumbledore do between 1900 and 1940? And what was Grindelwald up to? Lots of fodder there without even needing to use the DD-is-gay angle more than in passing.

    (and I say all the above as someone who doesn't object to slash)
     
  7. afrojack

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    Fuck you J.K. I was fine with all the shit she said in interviews up until now. Now she's fucking with my favorite character. People are right that she's made Albus a cliche. Nope, not possible to be intellectual, think outside the box, speak eloquently, or dress however you want without being gay. Fuck that. I thought the Grindlewald/Dumbledore dynamic was fucking genius in the seventh book. Why couldn't it just be two great minds with an ideal that had merit but turned into something terrible? Nope, Dumbledore's gay. Not only was it random and completely unnecessary, it takes a huge chunk out of the complexity of his character, because now half of the things he did were catering to his homosexuality. Good fucking Game Rowling. I wish for the life of me that I hadn't read that interview.
     
  8. Lucullus

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    Hey, relax people. I think we should have known by now how much stock to place in JKR's post-series ramblings.

    Not in the Books = Not canon. Dumbledore's not gay, to me at the very least.
     
  9. Dark Minion

    Dark Minion Bright Henchman DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Well. He probably went emo listening to some hardrock punk on his mp3 player until he got into Goth and started to go out on revenge.

    I just thought about IP82's story The last dinosaurs roar: Now the whole plot with Harry ensuring Dumbledore's path gets an entirely new meaning. If someone writes a sequel it just has to include an AD/GG mpreg plotline.
     
  10. Lecter

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    I am eagerly looking forward to further weed-induced revelations. Shall we, perhaps, discover that Ron was cheating on Hermione with Pigwidgeon? Mmm, the possibilities...
     
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  12. Garret P.I.

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    Okay, first off, I read that article and hoped it hadn't been posted here... just so I could get my views front and center.. attention whore that I am....But damn it all, you all got to it first... crap!

    Okay, my first reaction.

    Fucking god damned stupid WHORE! What the FUCK is she thinking?
    Is she even thinking at all. Ahhh crap... look at that comment about fanfiction... shit... she's fucking with th fans just to be a shit stirrer. She's doing it just to have another whole ration of shitty gay sex HP fics innundate the web... as if we don't have too many of them already.

    Of all the stupid ass random shit, she had to go pull this sort of bullshit.

    JKR needs to have her stupid ass mouth nailed fucking shut and boarded up with two by fours and galvanized ten penny nails.

    Second response... JeeZUS ... puts a whole new spin on how he devoted his life to being a school master at a children's school, huh? Riddle probably went dark just so he could defend himself from all those "Do you have anything to tell me?" looks.

    Third response... Holy SHIT!... now it all makes sense why he placed Harry with the Dursleys in addition to trying to make him live a life just like Riddle... he did it to try to custom build his own pedo-sex slave.

    Probably was hoping he'd become a total sub after all that abuse so that he could pull his "kindly old school teacher" shit... before you know it, Harry is running around wearing a studded leather harness with built in wrist and ankle cuffs and chrome cheek spreader and Albus is running after him with a fucking ball gag and a cat of nine tails.

    Forth response.... JKR's said she was worried that when she dies someone will write a sequel that will damage her story...AH HA! that's what this is about. She's so worried about that... that instead she's preventing that from ever happening, by trashing them herself first.

    That way noone will WANT to try and write books that follow after because she'll have burnt the story to the ground already. Damn she's clever...She's found a creative Solution that no other author that ever loved their work would ever think of. Instead of killing off the main characters, she's systematically poisoning the well for future generations of fans. Bravo JKR... what a creative fucking solution to that problem, you've got your money, so now just rape the characters and burn the thing to the fucking ground.

    Damn... next we'll discover that Ron has been getting it on with Ginny on the side. Then we'll discover that Hermione and Harry have gotten hooked on magic crank along with Draco. Leading them all to a rather sticky end in a massive gay sex gang bang. Harry paralyzes Hermy accidentally via auto erotic asphixiation while she's doing him in the pooper with a strapon. Harry ODs and ends up a vegetable. And Draco shoots his eye out with a fucking red rider bb gun.

    Sweet!


    Then came my final thoughts... God Damn it.... will someone please just smack that lady? Something...anything to get her fucking brain started again.

    What a fucking clusterfuck she's turning the story into.
     
  13. The Fine Balance

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    Okay, I'm taking a wild little stab in the dark:

    How many truly great men are there in the HP books: Dumbles, Grindlewald, Tom Riddle/Voldemort and lastly, HP.

    How many truly great women: Lily (simply because none of the books would have happened hadn't it been for her).

    Perhaps, just perhaps, the 'reason' for his homosexuality is that he never really found a equal in the opposite sex.

    It is you who've connect his odd mannerisms with his sexual bias, not her. She should not be given the responsibility of your. or any readers, prerogative.
     
  14. Lyndon Eye

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    That's an interesting theory. So do you think Rowling is making a statement concerning inferiority of women, or if it was just a coincidence? Personally, I've always viewed her as very liberal and possibly feminist. But then, on further reflection, your point does have merit. All of the "great" characters in the novel are men: the women (i.e. Hermione, Ginny, McGonnagal) are just there as support. Then, there's also the fact that the structure of wizarding society seems patriarchical, outside of the professional fields.


    As for the whole Dumbledore thing, I think it was just a convenient way to explain away the fact that such a prominent, great wizard doesn't have to baggage/extra variable of family to deal with. The whole Ariana/Aberforth thing was enough, much less adding a wife and possibly children into the mix. I don't think Rowling intended any negative connotations outside of that.
     
  15. BioPlague

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    Sorry, what? No. The reason Dumbledore is gay is because Rowling needs to make a statement. It's not canon; what she's doing is political, what she's doing is being an author who preaches.

    Instead of presenting the character in the book as homosexual, she does it in a sound bite.

    I also hate the pretentious bullshit she forced into her story to get through her own problems. She had a problem facing her mother's death, she had a problem overcoming her obsession over her best friend, she had a problem being poor - all come out overbearing in the text.

    Lay down your life? Don't worry about death, or being manipulated? Self-inserting yourself? The woman's a basket case and she has the biggest case of tell everyone don't show it in the fucking world.

    You may like an author who tells you everything by having characters or the author herself say it but I prefer narrative that brings to life what's being said and shows me why I should give a fuck.

    As of right now, all I see is another attempt to garner attention for political purposes. Take a look at any group or person and you'll notice when their stuff stops becoming entertaining. When they bring politics into it because no one except his or her most ardent asshole lickers wants to hear what she has to say on any issue.

    What people truly want is for them to keep producing the material that made them famous in the first place.

    Sorry if that doesn't gel with you but if you don't like the fact that eccentricity automatically leads to people questioning your sexual orientation, walk outside your basement you moronic piece of shit.

    Twinkling eyes, flamboyant robes, formal speech and the solitude. Dumbledore was very abnormal in all that he did. So what does Rowling do? She pushes a hotbutton issue and makes his sexual orientation homosexual, the orientation that most people consider 'abnormal'.

    Again. Pick someone who's an average joe. Pick someone who isn't ridiculously pushing the boundaries of everything around him.

    Furthermore, do it in the fucking book.
     
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  16. Sporangia

    Sporangia First Year

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    Could be. McGonagall could be considered too, but really it's mostly likely something she came up with on a whim.

    Sure would. Sexually explicit indeed. And of course she would have told people earlier, to garner more attention, if she'd thought of it then.
     
  17. Darius

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    I would so hit it.
     
  18. The Fine Balance

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    Oh, and how would that be? Him having hot gay sex with some wrinkled ass? Or, perhaps, openly declaring "Harry, baby, I'm gay" ? He's 150 years old. His libido is long dead. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders, plus his conscience. Unless, you hypocritically believe that homosexuals have wildly different mannerisms than other men, there are very few ways open to her showcase that Dumbledore is gay, and not straight.

    In fact, the only real way I can think of is when he was being discredited and or post-funeral. And that would be tell, not show.

    And since the Wizarding World doesn't frown on Incest, why not homosexuality, too?

    Nobody has accused her of being a great author. Or, at least, nobody should. She had a great idea, and it captivated the world for a decade. Now, end of story. She should let it die before she fucks it worse.

    I don't like, I don't care. Other people's opinions are not my responsibility and I'm not going to change my habits because they draw unwanted conclusions from them.
     
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  19. The-Hyphenated-One

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    Edit: This thread moves way too fucking fast.
     
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