It really helps that the two people I've tried it on (Singed and Ryze) have absurdly easy ways of building the charges. Ryze's Q is basically on the same CD of the tear, and Singed.... Is Singed s3.

 

So that annoying little rat teemo is super OP now. Runaan's really makes on-hit builds super effective, and apparently Liandry's makes Shrooms super powerful.

On the other hand, really looking forward to Fizz with Liandry's.

 

Replaced the Deathcap in my Sejuani build with Liandry's... :3

 

Wukong Too Strong.



Seriously though, the new Black Cleaver is effing impressive as hell. I took a gigantic power spike when I got my first one. And the second one only compounded the issue. I had as many kills as the entire enemy team by the end of the game.

I'm gonna be sad when they nerf BCleaver. But it WILL happen.

 

I'll be glad when they do. A lot of characters can place those 4 stacks very quickly, and they are mostly the ones I hate anyway (Riven, Pantheon, Talon, WK, etc.) . Given that I personally liked the old BC it's a double slap to me.

 

Yeah, black cleaver is too core on almost all melee champs right now. I hope they don't nerf stats though, and just increase the cost.

 

New champ, Vi, is overpowered as all fuck.

Her E. The auto reset that causes it to upgrade to a 1.2 total AD + Base cone explosion? It life steals. ALL of it.

 

They nerfed the stats on Cleaver. Gives 10 instead of 15 ArPen on Brutaliser and it reduces for less as well.

 

They're thinking about what to nerf on Cleaver. RiotNome posted a question to the four or five people who still play Dominion.

Just making the ArPen unique would probably be enough, but Riot sure do like their nerfs.

 

I don't think Riot quite have the sense to just make it unique, that'd be too simple I guess. When they nerf something, they have to go in hard eg neutering Rengar again on PBE. Not that I don't think he needs it, his W with spirit visage is stupidly strong as is and they can't nerf visage so, Rengar gets it in the ass.

Just reading up on Vi I think it's her W that concerns me the most, all of that on one ability seems a tad much. Not seen many Nami's either, though my friend steamrolled mid with her going Lichbane, Liandry's, Deathcap.

 

Who cares about Black Cleaver? Sure it is freaking strong, but it has nothing on the godamn sightstone.

I love that item, but it is so overpowered it is hilarious. Terrible item design.
"Let's get rid of Heart of Gold because health +GP10 was too strong."
Now let's replace it with an item that give Health + an infinite supply of wards at no cost."

Holy mother of god, what the hell were they thinking? It makes Heart of Gold look like Cloak and Dagger.

I'm actually in the middle of writing an extended piece on the new sightstone that I think I'll throw up maybe on reddit or the forums to see what discussion people can have about it, but damn, that item is way, way too good.

 

I think the item is fine, if not for the fact they nerfed Oracles as well.

 

You can't use wards to buy other items. That right there is the chief difference between Heart of Gold and (Ruby) Sightstone.

Besides who the fuck actually buys wards in the games you play?

 

Me.
/tenchar

 

Everybody from supports to top laners. But yeah, I made a post on the forums, but with the reduced duration of Oracles, I really hope they lower the costs as well.

 

As stated by ElDee, you can't make Sight Stone turn into other items, now matter how much you want it to be.

Also, the biggest reason HoG was removed was because it made top stupid snowbally. Engage vs HoG and the user's harder to kill. Don't and he gets gold stupid-fast. It was a no-win situation vs common HoG purchasers at top and that's why it was removed.

If you haven't noticed, top rarely, if ever, buys Sight Stone.

 

Why would you want to turn sightstone into something else? The sheer number of wards that sightstone gives you is utterly abusable.

The problem is that sightstone is effectively resourceless vision. You aren't giving up anything meaningful to pick up a sightstone. 700 gold is nothing, and it grants you the ability to ward check bushes at will, protect yourself in lane or protect your laners as the jungler, or keep vision on enemy buff/movements.

All for what is effectively an infinite resource, which is no resource at all, because all you have to do to recharge is hit B.

You can keep placing wards too, because it doesn't restrict you from placing ward 3 or 4 if you already have 2 out. All it does is disappear the first or second ward placed.

This allows you to always have vision wherever you are acting, regardless of having already placed wards elsewhere when you were there.

The item changes wards from a tactical decision, because you had to pay a real cost for vision, into a no brainer, because sightstone negates any need for careful ward placement.

And don't even get me started about a sightstone on Lee Sin. The added mobility is ridiculous. Screw Wriggles'.

Vision wins games, and sightstone is the ultimate vision item, you get effectively limitless vision for 700 gold and an item slot, an item slot which any good support or jungler reserved for wards anyway.

So what am I giving up for this vision? Nothing, absolutely nothing. It is the epitome of bad item design, because it gives you one of the most valuable resources in the game, vision which by extension is knowledge without any meaningful cost.

 

But you are paying a cost. You're giving up an item slot and you're paying 700g, enough for 9 wards. Do you know anyone who wasn't either playing support or intentionally trolling who ever went back to base in Season 2 and bought two stacks of wards?

 

Sightstone is fine. Buy a pink ward and stop worrying about it. If you're the jungler, make your wards buy a pink or don't bother ganking. Worked for me thus far.

Spent the day jungling as Rammus & Hecarim to little success. I don't know how but I've lost to 3 seperate Rammus junglers since the patch, I think my team just plays retarded or something as I can't even get a gank off even with ghost & powerball going full speed...

 

Iceborn Gauntlet on Ez is OP.

Mana, Armor, CDR, AP, plus the guaranteed slow on the spellblade effect.

Philo -> basic boots -> Iceborn Gauntlet was my build for that game, went 11/0/3 before the enemy team surrendered.