Some maths and why I don't like AD Eve.


She has lower ganking power than AP Eve with the same gold investment (5k Gold) and requires staying in melee range for a long time to even start comparing power to AP Eve.

Assuming standard end gold of 11k total, an AP Eve will always kill her targets faster than an AD Eve.

Vs a 100 Mres/AR target with 2k HP assuming the following builds on AP and AD Eve:

AP: Sorc Shoes, DFG, Dcap, Lich (10.7k)

AD: Wriggles, TForce, IE, Mobi Boots (10.5k)

In a 3s combat period:

AP Damage with DFG first strike: 41% (DFG) + 35%(Ulti) + 740 (Ravage) + 998 (3 hits of Q) + 940 (2 Lich Procs) + 312 (Auto Attack damage) before defense is applied.

AP Damage after Defense: 2614 after defenses

AD: 25% (Ulti) 3354 Auto Damage (Factoring Crits + Ravage Speed buff) + 364 (2 hits Q) + 394 (E) + 321 (TForce procs)

AD Damage after defense = 2724

This is assuming the Eves are able to stand in combat for 3s doing full damage.

For a damage increase of slightly over 100 after 3s of full combat vs 1 target, I have a much weaker early gank (DFG and burst > Sustained unless lane has a ton of CC and Q with AP packs a lot of sustain too), AOE damage (Ulti and Q do significantly less), ranged attacks (Q, Ulti, DFG), and escape (You're in a fight for 3s to do that much as AD while AP front-loads a huge chunk of her damage as well as doing 1/2 of it from range).

I really don't recommend AD unless you can't get your team to help secure dragon and Baron if you don't buy a wriggles.

 

...I almost never finish my Trinity before getting a Bloodthirster on AD Evelynn. This is ignoring the fact that 11k total gold seems pretty poor for an end game in my experience.

That being said, I plan to properly test out both AD an AP Evelynn before making my decision on preference. I can certainly say that AP is more viable than it used to be.

 

Thoughts on the new matchmaking changes? DLP premades a bit more viable?

 

So, I finally hit 20. I can finally use T3 runes, but I'm still not sure what to do. Do I buy another champion or 2 to broaden my selection as I find myself lacking good AP's short of Veigar (terrible with skill-shots currently making Morgana a tad iffy). Or, do I go all out and buy the majority of T3 runes that I can use on multiple characters? So AD runes, armor, mr per level seem to fit the bill. The only problem would be Quints, thinking either AD or movement speed quints.

Suggestions guys?

 

Not one bit. Its even worse than before since I'm getting matched withe ven lower Elos than previous.

 

Have you considered buying the champion bundles? They're a decent bang for your buck. Gone are the days where they could be purchased for five dollars unfortunately :/

edit: I'd suggest getting runes first and just using the free champions so you get exposed to more champions.

Marks: Flat AD & Magic Penetration
Seals: Armor & Mana Regeneration (Per Level)
Glyphs: Cooldown Reduction (Per Level) & Magic Resistance (Per Level)
Quintessences: Health, Attack Damage & Ability Power

And also, save ip for holiday runes. They especially are useful.

 

I own the Champion bundle that effectively costs 2600RP because it gives you 1300 back, I forget the name.. Ultimate collection I think. Decided I'm gonna try Fiddlesticks out tomorrow and a couple of others, not decided who yet though.

Still, I was siding with the runes because well, when I've got them, I can use them all I want and then future IP can go on champions so it probably works out in my favour.

As for Holiday runes, google only seems to show Christmas ones, well, people talking about them. I'm assuming there are Halloween ones as well? Just a thought as SUmmoners Rift has the whole Halloween map, or it used to.

Edit - Just saw Maokai went on sale, rather tempted as I have just over 500 RP left over.

 

For a cheap Tier 3 Rune page, I would focus on

Marks: Flat AD and Magic Pen
Seals: Armor
Glyphs: Flat MR or MR per level (User preference)
Quints: Flat AP, Flat AD, Avarice or Movement Speed

The Mark and Quint choice are pretty dependent on what types of champions you usually play. Marks depend if your champions do mostly magic or mostly physical damage. Quints depend on if they do Magic, Physical, A Support champ or they are a bruiser.

I wouldn't advise using the flat Health quints as the post above quotes and you don't need CDR/Per Level Glpyhs or Mana regen seals at this time. The CDR glyphs are rather meh and you're better off with harder to itemize Magic Resist. the Mana Regen seals are useful but flat armor is MUCH more valuable for a wider variety of champions.

 

Agreed completely. I'd advise, though, that any new player get MS quints. Honestly, quints are so expensive that you will be saving up for what feels like ever just to get one set of three. As there isn't a single champion in the game that doesn't benefit from being faster (but supports/bruisers/mids/carries all need different quints), MS is the cheapest way to get a solid benefit that you can use everywhere.

 

There are no words for how apoplectic I am. I tried to convey it, but I don't think I quite got it across.

I honestly don't think I made a single mistake that entire game. Not a single one. At one point (after the 7th nunu/lulu suicide pact), I actually solo'd a full health team minus morg who I had already killed previously, to stop them from doing baron. I literally killed 3 people and sent shaco running from full health while they attempted to do baron.

At one point, I kept ashe and alistar busy for 15 seconds, thinking that the team could handle the garen/shaco, since once again, I had already killed morgana. With no way out, I still managed to bring them both to sub 10% before dying. Then, to my fucking AMAZEMENT, garen had managed to somehow kill 2 people and get away from a third while apparently the entire team chased TANK SHACO around the jungle.

And yet I'm sitting here with a loss because of the unstoppable force that was, not the fed enemy team, but the fucking useless pieces of utter trash in the form of suicide pact nunu-lulu. The two of them quite literally had 2-3x as many deaths as the rest of the team COMBINED at any given point in the game past 10 minutes.

I normally enjoy this game, and it's even more frustrating that THIS fucking game, which rarely even upsets me enough to want to close it, is making me this upset. I don't even get a fraction of a tiny bit of a percentage of a portion of this upset when I play with 4 trolls determined to insult, feed, and grief me. Please, just never invite me again. I will be happy to play with YOU, or to play with YOU and any other DLPers, but never ever ever invite me to play with those two players again.

That was the single worst game I have ever had the misfortune of having to play since I started league, some 3500 games ago. Apologies, for being so upset.

 

Who were they? I want to avoid them too.

 

The reason for Darius currently being disabled;

Apprehend Glitch

There's a thread on the site about this, which I can link as well, and I find it hilarious, all these people complaining about him or wanting him to stay disabled.

 

People will complain about anything. I can't believe I still hear people complain about Darius, he isn't hard to deal with if you have half a brain.

That said, I complain about him too, but I complain about him the same way I complain about Trynd and Poppy ults (or Teemo in general). That is to say I am not serious.

On the other hand that glitch is hilarious. Better nerf Irelia, just saying.

 

Lulz. That definitely explains why he's off.

 

Witchary and Elmonzio.
While I have played plenty with the former, and he plays a perfectly good Support Lulu(as well as Supports in general moreso than other roles), I can't really explain why he took Lulu top to suffer so horribly against a Garen.
As for the latter, he has mostly played well from what I've seen in the few matches that I've done with him, but I was just as surprised as Churchy with how badly he did that game.

 

Once again, apologies for the rant.
I think part of the reason I was so frustrated because I had to listen to his constant stream of stupidity in his annoying ass nasal tone.

 

Nasal tones of voice make it ten times worse, I have to agree.

 

Ok, keep in mind I had this weird glitch with my firewall where if I chose a skin for a champ LoL would be shut down and denied access. Super annoying and it turned me off the game for a good month and a half/two months. So today I decide I'm gunna start again and play a Bot game to get back in the swing of things..

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO THE INTERFACE?

Anything to do with my mouse feels super off now. If I keep my screen centered I'm constantly misclicking, moving besides minions instead of, you know, attacking them. Free screen is even worse, sliding around isn't fluid anymore. Its this super jerky movement that either has my screen landing half a panel too far or half a panel short. Never where I want it.

(Also does anyone know how to bind movement to my left click if possible. Right for both.. just feels clunky now. Especially with the whole screen issue thing)

 

As far as changing your movement to left-click, perhaps look in your key bindings under the options tab in game. (Click esc -> options-> key bindings).

 

I can't decide if it is worth it. My elo is like, 1050, so there is little, if any, chance of me breaking out of elo hell. So I was thinking "why not start a new account and work my way back up to 30?" But it took like, several months for me to get to level 30, so by that time it seems like I may have badger my head against the wall enough that I'll have climbed up some, since I mostly only make 2-3 non critical mistakes a game.