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General League of Legends

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Well, I had a few Zyras ult at absolutely nothing beyond a few minions, so I suppose I was up against bad players at those times.
     
  2. Darth Disaster

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    Translation: Absolute retards.
     
  3. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    Basically when I do play, I play a lot of games, and my patience goes down with each subsequent game. Every so often I get a string of games filled with absolute stupid that sends me over the edge. In any case 3 bans over nearly 4-5k games isn't bad, just shows that when I do lose it, I really lose it.
     
  4. Darth Disaster

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    Uhm, I'm pretty sure that Riot doesn't particularly care how many games you've played... if you get banned too many times, they'll still eventually permaban you. It's been known to happen to players with similar amounts of games under their belt.

    So, I'd be careful were I you. I've never heard of someone getting more than four chances. And often three is the limit, from what I understand.
     
  5. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    Never received a warning or ban in nearly 4k games, but I've actually never raged/trash talked anyone except in retaliation.
     
  6. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Riot does take account how many games you've played, but not necessary the ban count. I remember a red post saying one time that the tribunal takes into account how many games are played, (meaning, needs more cases of misbehavior before sending out bans). So it's harder to get the ban in the first place, but nonetheless if you get banned too many times, it's permanent.
     
  7. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    Not really seeing Zyra as useful. She can probably stand up to plenty of mages, but after a certain elo, the junglers are who win mid lane for you 95% of the time. Whoever coordinates better ganks with their jungler wins, and because of that mages without escapes (like Zyra) just can't compete with highly mobile mids.

    I have yet to play her, but I have had four games with Zyra mid so far. Three times, Zyra got super fed.

    Because it was Zyra vs Zyra. And late game, if the enemy Zyra was the fed one, it was too easy to focus her down quickly. When I finally was able to get mid, I played Fizz and it was absolutely retardedly pathetically easy to stomp her unconditionally, even though skarner ganked me 3-4x as often as nocturne ganked her.

    Fizz isn't likely the best measure of Zyra's effectiveness, since he is kind of built to counter her. Her skillshots just seem a bit lame and easy to dodge, especially as fizz. Since she has no escape and her only cc actually doesn't stop me if I Q before/as it hits, she becomes Urf food at 6.

    Still though, not really seeing her as that strong, but I could be wrong.
     
  8. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Feels kind of retarded that EVERY one of her skills is delayed activation.
     
  9. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    It's true that Zyra can get focused down pretty quickly, but the utility she brings to the team is ridiculous. The Q is pretty mediocre, just a standard damage spell. E has a really long range, pretty good utility on that part. But what makes her really strong is her ult. For a spell with that much utility and cc, the damage is pretty good too. Positioned carefully, can always guarantee hitting at least 2 people. If chained with other aoe cc's, it's not too difficult to get 4 or more people (that's how big that range is). Still, her lack of escapes makes it more difficult to play her, but damage/utility wise, she is definitely strong.
     
  10. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    Yeah I was mentioning the games just as an illustration that it doesn't happen often, not as a "I have too many games to get perma banned." Its pretty much someone starts trying to be a smartass troll and for whatever reason (real life + frustration at that kind of behavior) I let loose.

    It takes me just a day to get banned when that happens. SO at this point I'm seriously considering just muting everyone, every single game in solo q. According to the tribunal FAQ I cannot be banned for that at least.:D
     
  11. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So just tried out Jayce for the first time and he's.....interesting. I like the damage and I like the mechanics its just going to take a fair amount of time for me to get used to switching between modes on the fly and whats better to use in what situation.
     
  12. redshell

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    Technically, you could. Refusing to communicate with team is an option for reports. I suppose they could resort to pings, but too many people get all pissy about perceiving that they are being ignored.
     
  13. Trooper

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    Playing AP Teemo is soooo much fun. XD

    Over 900 damage shrooms generating every 15 secs... SHROOM THE WORLD. D:
     
  14. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    So... I was looking at this page:
    League of Legends: Hidden Passives

    ...and one of the comments linked a video, which showed Sejuani doing something that I admit I didn't know about despite enjoying Sejuani. Has she always been this way, or was it changed? Maybe I just never went against Anivia, Jarvan or Trundle while I played Sejuani.
     
  15. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    Q: When should I be voting to Pardon? A: Here are some examples of times where reported players should be pardoned. (...) Players who are not responding to other players or do not speak the language, but otherwise aren’t displaying any negative or strange behavior. (...) They can report all they want, but riot reviews permabans so I would be safe from that.
     
  16. Peto Verum

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    So I had typed up a long post to both introduce myself to you guys and talk about how mid match-ups work and Zyra in particular; Firefox crashed on me and I didn't have the motivation to retype the entire thing. Then I started typing and ended up making something even longer.

    My only real comment to this is that junglers don't win mid lane. Mid laners are able to lead their opponents towards sides to set up ganks. Mid laners are also able to estimate the other junglers position and just stay on the opposite side of the river from them. Through careful position switching, its next to if not impossible to gank mid without something like alistar flashing over the wraiths wall and comboing someone out from turret (even that can be flash dodged). Zyra in particular can keep the mid bushes perma warded and honestly should never die to a gank. Its not the junglers who wins mid, its the mid who better reads the junglers. Thats not even counting things everyone knows about like csing and roaming, but the point is that higher elo mid matches are about far more than the jungler.

    I believe one example given was how Fizz counters Zyra and on the surface it would seem he does, but careful play from the Zyra will actually win them the lane. Exhaust tends to be the better summoner on her as it chains the gap closing mage to her plants are denies burst mages the ability to fight her. All one needs to do is double tap w under yourself, tap e towards fizz as he gap closes with his q waiting till he's in melee range, then q the double seeds are watch them unload on him. If he e's to keep fighting, flash dodge the e while staying close and exhaust him as he lands. Fizz is now dead in 90% of situations. If he e's away, just back off. That would all be the pre-6 stuff, if fizz ever ults post-6, obviously dodge or die. That being said, fizz's ult is really easy to read once you get the hang of it so it shouldn't be that hard.

    I know theory crafting tends to be frowned upon, but the scenario I outlined is how it will almost always turn out in that lane match-up if Zyra plays correctly.

    This particular method seemed to work really well against fizz or other gap closing champs. I haven't actually played that many games on Zyra yet. So far I'm up to ~13 games without any losses in lane or in game, including two games going past 20 kills on pbe, though pbe does tend to be mainly players from lower skill tiers.

    I main mids and I'm high enough elo to know match-ups fairly well. I would be willing to pm my elo or name or whatever, but I would prefer if it doesn't get added to any master lists just due to keeping my account separate from other things I do. I'll leave it at me being higher than 2000 elo but lower than 2075 elo as of right now.

    tl;dr: I'm new here but I've lurked for a while, I disagree with Churchey about Zyra and high elo mid, and I know a fair amount about league. Also fizz while incredibly fun against bad opponents, actually tends to be completely horrible even against those he "counters" if the other player knows his stuff, but that's a topic for another thread/post.
     
  17. Iztiak

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    Or you could, you know, try self control. You're an adult, and in full control of your actions. Muting everyone every game seems like a bit of a drastic measure considering that an application of self control would achieve the same end result.

    I too get irritated with the mouthbreathing cockmongling shitfaced idiots that I play with... However, I've never received a ban. Or even a warning.

    It's as simple as just not saying anything. Just roll your eyes at the sheer stupidity on display and move on. It isn't as if they are in the process of murdering close relatives and you lose your mind from fury.
     
  18. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    Self control is great, and works 99% of the time, but like I said sometimes real life shit can wear it down. When some bitch is too busy fiddling with her radio rear ends me in a parking lot exit and nearly gets me killed and then has the fucking audacity to try and say it was my fault... It wears my control down since that is the exact same stupidity and the same attitude I see in this game.

    So yeah I should be able to control myself always but I also know that on rare occasions I might slip. Thus considering that in solo q 90% of the stuff that is typed is useless I might as well mute everyone and not risk it. If anything it would make the game more enjoyable since I could just chalk up smn's trolling to them just being bad which honestly doesn't bother me.

    Sidenote: Temporary ban = warning, they aren't separate.
     
  19. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Nope. They are separate. I've gotten a warning but never a ban.
     
  20. Delirium

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    Huh my bad then, never got a warning D:
     
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