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General League of Legends

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    9-6-11 first game as jungle Rengar and ever as Rengar. Killed top and mid by 6 minutes. Ask Glernaj for confirm since he was playing with me.

    Snares on demand = enemy can't ever escape. E is a one-point wonder while W needs to be scaled for durability.

    Ulti = wards mean shit.

    Bonetooth = must-buy. Shit stacks fast. Ended game with 11 stacks while maintaining at least 6 all game.

    Insta-gibbed the fed enemy carry every fight from over a screen away.

    Rengar actually is shiyty top if you have any trading ability and armor at all. Made him my personal bitch as Poppy top. Can also ask Glernaj for confirm.
     
  2. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Am I the only one sad to see the Diana starting screen go? That song was fucking beautiful.
     
  3. BsuperB

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    He seems good early on, but he doesn't really seem to have any late game. He can't really engage short of using a 5 fury bola and I just don't think his damage would cut it because you have to build at least semi-tanky otherwise you get wrecked. I've watched a couple of games with him in now (admittedly no streamers and I have no idea what the ELO of these guys is) and he tends to just fall off unless he snowballs like crazy with his necklace in the mid-game.
     
  4. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    He's a jungle fighter. You shouldn't be first engage unless you got leap on him. Rengar exists to make contests over dragon and Baron. He excels at engaging in those conditions.

    Even if they aren't near the brush, then you just proc your steroids off the tank then ulti to hit the carry.

    Also, his damage doesn't fall off. He's almost as durable as Jax while having Yi's steroid abilities. Build him Hyper carry or bruiser and he'll still punch people in the face.
     
  5. redshell

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    Just thought I'd reiterate this.

    I've been playing jungle Diana, mostly because AP is what I'm best with, and she's fun as hell. Her ganks post-6 are incredibly strong, but she also gets shut down pretty easily if the enemy has any wards because of how squishy she is. She can't come in from behind their turret in any reasonable shape, so you're forced to rely on the good grace of your teammates to tell you where wards are or sneak in from your lane.

    Also, in my experience, she works best with mids like Katarina, Kennen, and Mordekaiser, since they don't need blue like Lux or Veigar do. And, again, this is my experience talking, but she feels incredibly reliant on having blue. Whenever I gave it up I always had to recall because I was out of mana. Then again, this might be why some junglers like playing Jungle!Lee or Jungle!Mundo, since they can basically freely give up blue without any repercussions to them.
     
  6. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    So how is that rengar first blood gimmick working out? Still reliable or no?
     
  7. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Yep.

    550 damage and under 40 armor? 10/10 AR Pen AD runes. 21-9-0 masteries. Doran's or longsword start.

    You'll insta-gib.

    Also, I just out-harassed and shit on a Nunu top as top Rengar.

    E actually does hurt. Use it to farm and double tap harass when ferocity is ready. Can hit for 550 on double tap, which stops nunu's consume. Used W to mitigate iceball and heal when I felt a little low.

    When Nunu got too close, he'd eat an auto Q E and be forced to fight me.

    I didn't buy sustain items either. Just straight damage and pots to mitigate. Think I spent 400 gold alone on pots.
     
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  8. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Lol god damn I still love Darius, before anyone starts whining I know its not all me by a long shot but I never rack up a body count quite like I do on him. Tanking a fed Katarina and her ultimate and then obliterating her in half a second never fails to be funny as balls.
     
  9. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Tip to everyone playing Rengar.

    E>W>Q for poking. Q levels only if you're sure you can 100% burst them with a Q->Q combo.

    E is safer over all and much more guaranteed burst due to range. It also lets you farm a bit if you can't afford to close in on people.

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    Watching other people play Rengar and butchering him makes me seethe.

    How the fuck is it so god damn hard to level something OTHER than the auto-attack skill versus a Teemo?
     
  10. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Seriously, fuck tolls on ranked. Stupid motherfuckers who can only play 2 champs should stick to bots or annoying people at normal games.
    This idiot was third pick, and we already had an AP carry for mid, but he doesn't care. He takes another AP carry and whines that he wants mid.
    Now I have to wait 30 minutes because these retards decide to taint ranked games with their stupidity. Fuck. Those. Guys.
     
  11. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    Last three ranked games in order:

    Victory with a 3/2/21 Alistar, with the team raging (and our Mordekaiser mid saying he'd feed) because Shen and Morgana were picked by the enemy team instead of banned.

    Victory with a 16/7/11 Ryze in a super close game, with an Ashe who wanted to play support for AD Janna and the rest of the team raging because Kassadin was picked by the enemy team instead of banned.

    Victory with an 8/2/10 Tristana, with a support who randomed Kennen with AD runes and a Leona who went top lane (and shit on Riven). No rage this time, despite my bans being Heimerdinger, Master Yi and Karma.
     
  12. Wildfeather

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    Truth. Rengar requires a fair bit of tactics in order to play well. You can't just mindlessly walk to lane and attempt to gank no matter what the conditions are. In a lot of comps Rengar won't work because his initiation potential, unless they are near bush or you pop your ult, is pretty weak. You have a damage AA skill, a defensive steroid, and a tapering slow. Your job is to blow them up fast, or leap on them, and blow them up fast.

    His clear speed seemed pretty alright when I tried it solo. It isn't like Skarner or Udyr speed, and your level 3 point has to go into bolas if you want to gank, but otherwise I felt pretty good in the jungle. Leaping as a mechanic is so fun, sometimes I was walking into bush to leap out for no reason on creeps. Even with q triforce, I felt pretty squishy though, and I couldn't solo gank Nasus almost ever unless I popped my ult.

    I'll have to try him in a few normals (which means a grind of "who gets the Rengar first and doesn't get a leaver") before I'd try him in ranked though. He seems pretty well balanced past level 1.
     
  13. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    No offence, but if I saw these bans in a ranked game, I would report the team leader.
     
  14. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    Meh. I don't do ranked often, so it's super low Elo. Even if the enemy team get the FOTM champs, they can't play them.
     
  15. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Fair enough.

    Speaking of elo, can someone explain something to me? So far I've been winning/losing aprox 18 elo per game.
    So I just had this amazing game, 34/4/13 with Ezreal. I got fed early and didn't stop getting fed throughout the game. I almost had a penta, but the soraka escaped with like, 80 hp from my ult and I barely missed Darius. Anyway, by the end I had only risen by 9 elo.
    What is the elo won/lost based on?
     
  16. BsuperB

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    Enemy team's average elo I'd guess, maybe? Usually how these kind of things work, but that's just a guess.

    As for myself, I'm wondering what to do with my IP now? I have all the basic runes I was recommended a few pages back and now I'm wondering do I buy more rune sets or more champions? I'm leaning towards runes currently and thinking along the lines of straight up MR blues, ArP reds, GP5/MP5 yellows and I'm unsure about Quints as I really enjoy having the movement speed.
     
  17. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    If you have about three champs of each role that you can play, stop and buy runes.
     
  18. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    It's based on a convoluted formula involving your team's average Elo, the enemy team's average Elo and the difference between them. If I were to guess, I'd say that there's also various bonuses and penalties tacked on for things like duo queue partners (especially partners with wildly different ratings), win/loss streaks and games that end up being complete stomps. There might also be a bonus depending on which side of the map you were on, but I don't think so because that's already handled with matchmaking (Purple team has a slightly higher Elo, because Blue team wins more often).
     
  19. DvorakQ

    DvorakQ Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Also how accurate the matchmaker believes your elo to be. It references your elos in other modes slightly, and how many games you've got under your belt already. Someone who has 1000 matches played will move elos at a slower pace than someone with 20 matches.
     
  20. Republic

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    My overall ranked matches don't exceed 100. So, I was rather miffed when I got only 9 elo on my, admittedly, best ranked game so far.
     
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