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WIP Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin By The Sinister Man - T

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by iamnotreal, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. Dicra

    Dicra Groundskeeper

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    It's difficult, but as it's atrocious in some aspects and great in others, 3/5 seems adequate, even though there's not much I'd call mediocre in here.
     
  2. CaptainFlowers

    CaptainFlowers Fourth Year DLP Supporter

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    It's got some good ideas and some awesome twists, but it's all bogged down now. TSM is just printing every idea he has down onto the story at this point, which isn't helping an already too big of a fic that's just only in the third year.

    Hopefully he can steer the ship clear, but at this point I think he's stuck in an eco-chamber of fans rambling about how awesome all his ideas are. Though no where near as grand in scale, the same thing happened with Goerge Lucas. Maybe it's a bad metaphor, but it's what came to mind.
     
  3. AgentSatan

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    This fic is, as everyone else commenting on the thread has said, is a guilty pleasure fic, however if you manage to get past the first 5 chapters it becomes quite enjoyable. This fic definitely belongs in almost recommended, because of how Sueish Harry is. Personally, I think the author got too attached to Harry, and couldn’t possibly think of giving his precious character any flaws. Harry masters occlumency, is a politician, is a good guy while being bad ass, he inherits the Potter fortune. He legitimately cannot do wrong. Another character with seemingly no flaws is Neville; he always helps Harry and always does the morally correct thing. He’s even a powerful wizard for god’s sake. I think Neville could have been a really interesting character if he was a good person but not a good wizard; that would lead to a very interesting character, but again I think the author got too attached. Hermione is also pretty much perfect, although she rejects doing things the ‘slytherin’ way and does sometimes become annoying because of that.
    So far I’ve commented on all the flaws of the fic, however there are several virtues that I think make an interesting read. The plot has atleast 3 twists each year, and each year promises to be more than a canon rehash. The prince of slytherin plot line is the most original thing I’ve ever seen in hp fanfiction. The idea of having someone “rule” slytherin house from the shadows is an interesting idea which needs to be explored in more fics than this. In fact, the author has put in so many plot twists and so many open ended ideas that might lead to a plot twist he forgets to finish some of those open ended ideas. Overall, the plot is a prime selling point on the story.
    A character I find far more interesting than Harry is Jim, the wbwl. He makes several mistakes, is selfish, but a far more believable character than Harry who does everything right. What he does after hearing the prophecy is completely believable for a teenager. He starts to crack, becomes far more serious, and begins to see a dramatic change in personality. This is done masterfully, and it makes it all the more believable that he would be so desperate to learn occlumency that he would go against his father’s wishes. As I said before this results in a far more believable character who is interesting to read. In fact, for all his prejudices and faults the story would be more interesting if told from Jim’s POV.
    I give this fic a 3, and say that if you can make it past the first 5-10 chapters it’s worth a read.
     
  4. ScottPress

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    @AgentSatan I think you're confusing plot with some of the author's ideas that you like. A plot is a sequence of events. TSM has lost the plot in interludes hundreds of thousands of words ago.

    And imo there's no jump in quality after 10 chapters. The first 30 are pretty much universally awful.
     
  5. AgentSatan

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    @ScottyPress I do state pretty clearly in my comment that I like the idea of a ruler of slytherin. Maybe I could have not included it in the paragraph about plot, but I said I liked it as an idea. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'its lost the plot,' because each year has a plot of it's own.
    First year was a canon rehash, but with Harry inserted in and character interactions. The overarching plot was the Sorcerers Stone, and the conflict was Voldemort trying to steal it. It definitely had other plots within that though with the most striking example Harry solving the dragon crisis.
    Second year there was an overarching plot and again several smaller ones. The overarching one of course was the chamber of secrets, and another was Jim and Harry's conflict.
    Second year summer has many plots. One of the most notable is the India plot, and the Azkaban plot.
    Third year has yet to finish so I can't really know the plot, because of how the original third year plot of Sirius is now destroyed.
    So, of course TSM made a plot in this story. There is a plot for each year, because each year is supposed to be treated like a separate book. TSM even said he only made it into one fic for reader convenience. There is definitely plot the only worry is that there are too many subplots and TSM won't be able to keep up as I mentioned in my first comment. The interludes develop the characters and while some are unnecessary the plot isn't lost as you suggested.
    Yeah, its been a while since I've read it so the first 30 chapters may as well be pretty crap.
     
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  6. Xion

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    Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin has been updated with a new chapter.

    Story Stats
    Chapters: 110
    Words: 752,313
    Updated: 2019-01-12 16:00:23 UTC
    Published: 2015-04-17 18:27:52 UTC
    Previously updated: 24 days ago

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  7. Nevermind

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    Having read the latest chapter, I can‘t really think of anything meaningful to say.

    I mean, what else did we expect to happen?

    The Advocatus Diabolus, while somewhat entertaining, was as obvious a redshirt as I have seen in a while. And, as usual, the first half of the chapter was essentially just a massive infodump that, while providing some new character beats for Snape, could have been handled just as effectively in another way. Which would have also been beneficial to the brevity of the Dreamscapes arc, which was once again ridiculously long.

    I wonder whether this type of mental fortification might play a role in the eventual endgame, no matter how Lovecraftian it might turn out to be (read, by my current estimate: very). Because if not, this is yet another three-chapter excursion that has led us towards yet another foregone conclusion, Sirius’ possible intervention or no.

    All of that being said, I wonder what our merry group will do with Rookwood now that they have seen what one of his disciples was capable of?
     
  8. Xion

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    Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin has been updated with a new chapter.

    Story Stats
    Chapters: 111
    Words: 762,369
    Updated: 2019-02-05 20:32:37 UTC
    Published: 2015-04-17 18:27:52 UTC
    Previously updated: 24 days ago

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    Xion Robot Overlord Admin

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    Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin has been updated with a new chapter.

    Story Stats
    Chapters: 112
    Words: 769,461
    Updated: 2019-02-28 17:55:02 UTC
    Published: 2015-04-17 18:27:52 UTC
    Previously updated: 23 days ago

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