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WIP Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin By The Sinister Man - T

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by iamnotreal, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. kinetique

    kinetique Order Member

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    It was based on a lot of things, far more than just personality. Realistically if there was one thing you could boil down magical performance to it would almost certainly be I.Q.
     
  2. Acquiescing Avian

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    Crabbe was regularly described as dumb. He conjured Fiendfyre. Hermione struggled with Patronus and Defence (without proper instruction). She is vastly superior to Harry in intellect. Neville's I.Q. didn't see any change in OotP. He just overcame his own issues.

    I.Q. is just as important as any other parameter. It isn't the most important trait or the deciding factor.

    Edit: Isn't this the wrong thread for a discussion on magical theory?
     
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  3. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Ok? You won't accept a logical, realistic explanation for how someone might be more talented at magic than someone else just because...its logical and realistic?

    Thats nonsense. Sorry, but you're making things up if you say canon magical ability is solely based on personality and mental state. Based on what you've just said Dumbledore is the best wizard around because he's what? The most confident? And to suggest that "personality and mental state" is a more reasonable and logical basis for magical ability than genetics is a really strange argument to make.


    Again you've not actually given a reason for saying that a criticism of "this fanfic isn't canon therefor its shit" isn't a stupid criticism.

    Of course its different from canon. Thats the point. If you want to read canon, I'm sure you've got the books on a shelf. Reading fanfiction is about reading things that are different from canon.

    Criticise it because you don't like it, because its badly written, because you can think of how you would have written it. But to criticise it for not being canon is ridiculous.
     
  4. Acquiescing Avian

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    Solely based on...? There's an etc. at the end for a reason. I just pointed out the two most obvious ones.

    I never said changing canon is bad. More than half the fics I like have 'magical exhaustion' and non-canonical elements. I just made an observation that's apparently stupid.

    I didn't criticise the fic because I don't hate it. I just refuted some other guy's statement because it was (partly) factually incorrect. I didn't pass any judgement over the entire fic, just a magic system that is overused.
     
  5. AlexIY

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    If your sensibilities of fanfiction are based entirely off of canon compliance then 99% of the fics in the Library shouldn't be there (just operating under your logic). But these are indisputably good fics. And while this is a bad fic, the reasonings for such should not be "IT'S NOT CANON IT DOESN'T FOLLOW CANON".

    We've seen countless times where tropes have been reutilized and made sensible/better. Calling something a trope doesn't somehow make it bad in and of itself. The story, characters, dialogue and portrayal of the Magic system? Perfectly capable of being criticized. But just saying that something is bad because it isn't a canon depiction of another thing completely undermines the point of FF. Which is that it is made to be OOC events and settings with familiar faces.
     
  6. PureBloodedMuggle

    PureBloodedMuggle Banned

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    Honestly I think instead of James using Imperio on just Jim, he should have also used it on Harry. And maybe force him to do something bad in order frame him. I think it would really spice up the tension with EVERY character pretty nicely.
     
  7. Darkarus

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    James and Harry were rarely alone enough for that to have happened and not only does Harry have some amount of mental protection he was also protected by his Heir status and by making sure that James never knew what Harry was really doing. James also would normally never use the Imperius curse (or any of the unforgivable curses) without something like the Prophecy altering his thoughts.
     
  8. Mordecai

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    Whilst you're correct it certainly would have spiced things up, I think its important to remember that James used the Imperius Curse as a spur of the moment, panicked reaction. He didn't think it through or plan it out. I'm sure you could reasonably infer from the fic that he probably had at some point considered doing it to Harry, as it would be a quick and reasonably easy way to be rid of the perceived problem. But in the end he never did, because he's not that bad a guy.
     
  9. Xion

    Xion Robot Overlord Admin

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    Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin has been updated with a new chapter.

    Story Stats
    Chapters: 139
    Words: 1,100,721
    Updated: 2020-09-01 19:40:20 UTC
    Published: 2015-04-17 18:27:52 UTC
    Previously updated: about 1 month ago
    New Summary:
    Harry Potter was Sorted into Slytherin after a crappy childhood. His brother Jim is believed to be the BWL. Think you know this story? Think again. Year Three (Harry Potter and the Death Eater Menace) starts on 9/1/16. NO romantic pairings prior to Fourth Year. Basically good Dumbledore and Weasleys. Limited bashing (mainly of James).

    Brought to you by Scryer story thread updates.
     
  10. Xion

    Xion Robot Overlord Admin

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    Harry Potter and the Prince of Slytherin has been updated with a new chapter.

    Story Stats
    Chapters: 140
    Words: 1,109,901
    Updated: 2020-09-15 01:53:12 UTC
    Published: 2015-04-17 18:27:52 UTC
    Previously updated: 13 days ago

    Brought to you by Scryer story thread updates.
     
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