I agree that "The order of the phoenix" is a somewhat decent fic... Better than anything else (Honks, I mean) in a long time.
On the HONKS topic in general - I was actually expecting some AU fics after DH was released where Tonks survives and Remus dies and Harry helps her raise Teddy. Looks like I was mistaken.

 

If you are truly a HONKS lover then you must go on pureb99's stories on fanfiction.net.
They are INCREDIBLE!

 

That's the idiot that wrote "Dark Lord Potter" correct?

No thank you. I'd rather not read shit.

 

i really like the HOnks pairing,,dunno y most ppl don't like it...but ye a good HOnks that i read is The summer of Change on ff.net its really good...

 

Pretty much the only enjoyable Harry/Tonks fic is Summer of Change. The rest of them run anywhere from terrible to mediocre.

It's too bad, because Harry/Tonks is one pairing that has a lot of potential.

 

I guess you could say Summer of Change is the best Honks, but what is that really saying about the pairing.

While written well the plotline is just way to fluffy.

 

Out of principle and a love for the Ship, I think a post is necessary.

In general, I agree with those who have mentioned that any ship, howsoever badly written, will never completely die. The quality of fics may bend to atrocious levels due to some authors who must not be named, who will keep on writing them. In the crap that we call fanfiction, we will also find some gems that shall save the ship from its demise.

That said, Honks, like any other ship, has been riddled with cliches. It is the quality of the fics that we are losing not the ship itself. IMO, it would be better if the ship itself was lost than us being subjected to read mediocre efforts of pre-pubescent fantasizing authors, who think there is every reason that a young woman would fall in love of a scrawny kid just because he is oh-so selfless, had a bad childhood, plays Quidditch and what-not. She would pity him you idgits, not fall in love.

Unfortunately, most fics are somehow based on such fantasies where the authors imagine themselves in place of our hero. Such fantasies often include them getting a damn good hot-ass nookie from an older woman. The result, a major portion of the Honks fics.

The other aspect that ruins a fic is fluff. Though not a bad thing by itself, it is mostly used to saturate many of the chapters. It seems that the plot, if any, is woven around the fluff and sex. Pardon me, but this shit belongs to the PWP category.

Another thing I hate is the time-line when all Honks fics start, namely post-OotP. As an author who is writing a post-HBP fic, I'd like to point out that having the same time-line as others is the main reason why cliches abound, poisoning the ship.

Meh, I think I've said enough.

 

I agree with you, there are far too many fluff-filled, preteen-written Honks out
there. I know, i have had the unfortunate experience of reading many of them.

What we really need is more decent authors that are interested in the pairing. Tonks can be such a diverse character, if only she was formed right. Author's keep taking her personality and altering it in little ways from cannon. Which eventually starts giving us a weird perception of her real personality. Is she kick-ass and funny? or does she just show that humorous attitude as a mask to hide her pain at being so ostracized for being a metamorphmagus? I've read alot of HP fics, and all of them have their own versions of Tonks. Her character is being brutalized by fluff writers, and we need some more fics out there showing her true attitude; A joke-cracking strong-willed woman willing to go through Auror training and fight the dark wizards of the time. She probably was used alot during her high school years, and now either has put that behind her, or keeps it well pushed away. Either way tonks is shown too often to be a Potter-love-struck fool, or at least thats how alot of authors portray her.

Okay, i've rampled enough. Any other thoughts or suggestions on how we can get some better fics up and posting?

 

One of the most basic ways to get a good fic is to have a solid plot that does not revolve around angst, fluff and sex. It is highly unfortunate if these characteristics dominate the fic instead of the actual plot. True, we may have fics that are based solely on these, but the readers highly favor stuff with a larger plot rather than one which showcases a relationship.

There is no substitute for originality. There are already too many garbage fics running around and you don't need to add another to the lot. The uniqueness of a plot or ideas says more about the fic than the writer could ever express.

Cliches should be avoided. Period. This is not only highly recommended, but is rather important if you want readers to genuinely like the fic. Another way would be taking up the cliched idea and reinventing it so that it appears as an original one. Old wine in a New bottle.

The time-line of the fic (as I have stated earlier) is also important. When hundreds of fics concentrate on the same period, it is probable that many fics would have similar concepts. This is where your originality would be challenged.

The characters are the other main element of a fic. Each one should be portrayed carefully and in a believable manner, along with their flaws. It is important to remember that they may be magical, but they are still human.

Also, the fic should be written well enough that readers tear into you. There is no substitute for effort when it comes to checking facts and using the right spellings as well as grammar. English is not everyones first language, but it should be felt that at least you are trying to improve yourself.

This is mostly what I go by and remember at the moment.

 

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Unfortuantly most people who try to rectify this turn him into a player overnight, and hes a really cheezy wannabee player that wouldnt really work at all. Man im jsut dieing for a good friggin Honks fic! Someone write something good before i attempt it in the fic im working on, where i will probly end up butchering it....

i'm working on a piece that might be h/g, h/nt, h/fem blaise but im leaning towards h/nt.

 

12-04-2007, 10:13 AM

Know what that date is? The date of the post before yours.

 

Wow-nice restraint Ryuugi. You only pointed out the necro without blasting him for the abominable spelling and grammar, lack of decent contribution to the topic, and lack of an intro.

OT: Summer of Change is probably the only really good HONKS out their. I tried DLP Part I by pureb99 for a while, but it isn't very inspired. It also uses the horrible plot device of making Tonks the same age as Harry and living in the same neighborhood as Harry, which completely ruins the point of having a HONKS ship.

 

I hope it never gets written.

 

Aw. Look at my little 3yo post! It's up and walking again. I thought I'd buried it along with all of my wife's other miscarriages.

Wait.

No.

It's a zombie- I mean necro! Seriously, your post didn't even say anything that revolutionary that could possibly justify this massive necro. Plus, dude, it's not a good idea to start your stay here at DLP digging through the trash. And self-promotion sucks too.

For future reference: don't reply to any thread that's not on page 1. Some of them might be alright past that but for one who has your special needs I wouldn't want to confuse them.

 

Pretty much every honks story is garbage. Summer of Change was the only good one, but even that fic had some flaws, i.e: it was boring.

Self promote on your signiture or something, if you have more than one fic then link your FFN profile on your sig.

 

You guys did notice his post count right? Methinks you're getting trolled

 

After giving this thread a read I am shocked no one has read GreenGecko's series of fics that is honks. Theres a small bit int he first fic but gets a bigger role in the next two series. It has to be one of the most original Tonks interpretations i've read.

 

I assume you mean Resonance/Revolution/Resolution? I think no one here has read it for a couple reasons. One, nowhere does it say that it is Honks. Neither the summaries nor the author's recaps at the beginning of the second and third stories mention Tonks at all, let alone a relationship between her and Harry. Two, Snape adopts Harry. NO! Snape hates Harry with a passion. He would never, ever even consider adopting Harry. Such a relationship could only end in death for one or both of them (probably Snape).

 

Resonance at the very least is in the recycling bin here, though I don't know about the other two. So yes, people have indeed read the series. It just gets really long-winded and pointless, and thus isn't especially library-worthy. OOCness probably bothers some people as well; I happen to be one of them.


Also, note the red text. Your grammar is atrocious.

Awww, damnit.


Edit 2: Lol, Vash3G. Either Vash is fucking with us in some way, or inb4pedorape. Probably the latter.