I don't mind the missing Sirius thing. Its understandable and acceptable. What annoyes me is when Harry breaks down crying every time his name is mentioned. Has there ever been an instance in Canon when Harry broke down crying?

 

Ok, so I was just reading Journeyman Potter and while it is an excellent story, it brought up one of my pet peeves.

Why, when everyone is talking about Horcruxes, instead of people being appalled at the tearing of the soul, or even removing part of the soul, is the "horrible thing" about Horcruxes the fact that you have to kill someone senselessly?

I mean, sure, murder=bad and all that rot. But really, lots of people kill for no reason, and while it isn't a good thing, it certainly isn't the sort of thing that is 'so evil no one would ever share the knowledge' they had of it to others. In fact, there are lots of worse things I think people do in the world than kill one person senselessly. I bet I know a good hand full of people who when given the ability to live forever and simply have to kill ONE person for no good reason other than it lets them live forever, they would jump at the chance. If you're going to sit there and have your characters spiel about how evil and terrible a Horcrux is, then focus on something like the fact that you are splitting, then ripping, a part of your soul from your body, not that you have to murder one person. I mean, come on, this is Voldemort. Does anyone really think one little murder in the grand list of things that Voldemort has done is that bad?

 

Oh absolutely.

I have no problem with Harry being sad about losing Sirius at all. I wrote that into my story. What i dislike is when the author doesn't give any justification for why he would spend weeks sitting and starving himself over a man that he barely knew. I'n my fic, i wrote that Harry and Sirius spent a lot of time together in the summer before his fifth year. Most angst stories don't go even that far.

Typically, Harry sits and stares out of the window with tears running down his face. Typically, the weather also matches his mood, so it rains and storms all through the summer. Also, he will blankly whisper "Sirius" and weep some more...before Vernon uses a random appliance to beat the living tar out of him. That just irritates me.

A cliche: Vernon beating Harry.

Whatever...maybe he does, but do it realistically. He isnt about to take a bat a\or a golf club and smash it into Harry's head. WTF? That's a killing blow...use your brains, angst writers. Also, he's never before shown signs of wanting to torture HArry by chaining him to a wall and systematically torturing him to death. Don't get me started on the rape...he considers himself WAAAAAYYY to macho to ever field a single homosexual thought. Dudley might be gay, though.

 

Dudley probably isn't anything... Because he can't reach his equipment if he needed it. There is no evidence of physical abuse just emotional abuse and neglect, in canon that is. What I really find annoying is that Vernon beats Harry and then he's allowed to get away with it. Authors seem to forget the abuse after Harry leaves, a lot of them anyway.

Good point on the Horcruxes. But you have to consider that in canon having your soul sucked out is considered a suitable punishement. So it would seem that people took that to mean that tearing your soul to pieces is just another dark art thing.

 

No, you're right. Having your soul sucked out if you are evil does seem ok to these people. It's more that the reason it is a "forbidden lore" (Draco664's words) is the murder aspect. In fact, most stories I have read where someone explain 's Horcruxes to Harry, they say that they are the darkest of magic and basically erased from history because you have to murder someone in cold blood.

 

Very true, Niffler Lord...what irritates me is this:

Harry spends the summer getting treated like shit, ands gets slapped around every once in a while. He hates the Dursleys then, and constantly goes on about how he really wouldn't mind if they died.

Then, after independance strikes him, and he gets re-domesticated by the beaver/some other domineering bitch who starts controlling his life, he gives the Dursleys a MILLION POUNDS and says "Yes, bish, i was rich the whole time. Now, you're in danger! Go live in the Bahamas on an all expense paid trip!"

God, i hate that. Independent means his balls have dropped...not that he choosees a new master/mistress and lets people walk all over him.

 

When EVERYONE in Hogwarts are in Grimmauld.

 

This is one reason I f-in hate any romance in fic's.
I can't stand how he just goes around being everyone's bitch.

I mean come on not everyone wants to control the little squirt. Why would a person as (potentially) powerful as f-in Voldemort take sh-t from anyone.
I hate that he can stand up to f-in Tom/ministry/Dumbledore but then takes crap from his bit of fluff.

I just wish he'd bloody get some balls and stop taking crap.

My other peeve is the lack of understanding of British culture.
I read one fic where Harry grew up in the US and when he went to Hogwarts, he took pizza's and shit because supposedly us backward brits don't have 'em.

I don't know much about other countries culture so wouldn't write something without atleast checking the basics.

Btw I apologize if I've offended anyone, I realise the authors hear are of a higher calibre.
Litha

 

Agree with both points, but of course, both domesticated Harry and "is England in Alaska?" are well known and ranted about peeves.

BTW, Litha no need to force politeness, let your furstrations go rampart with all those beautiful uncut swear words and colorful descriptions of whatever's bothering you. That's why this thread is here for anyway.

Besides, you can always create another account if you get banned

 

Aye...go ahead and type 'Fuck'...i really wish you would

What do you mean by 'everyone in Hogwarts is at Grimmauld", VoD?

 

I think what he meant was those stories where Grimmauld Place is turned from an ultra-secret HQ of a paramilitary organization, into a refugee/day care center.

 

Hey I'm no cupturd ok, I just really like it here and I've already had my ass reamed once (shudders).

Well if swearing's ok (yesterday some nutjob threatened to deck me for swearing in front of a kid).


Another thing I f-in hate is how every pairing fic has him married by 19.
I mean for pity's sake I didn't start dating til 20 and I'm 1yr younger than canon Harry.

Also I hate how all the fucking Slytherin Harry's are like the moulin rouge of bloody Hogwarts. I mean look at Ginny, she's a fucking slut and in Gryffindor.
Shagging your fucking privates of doesn't make you cunning or mature.

Also why do they always have Hufflepuffs as total wimps. I mean Cedric was a Huff' and he didn't drop a load when he faced the tasks.

I have more but I don't want to incur the wrath of the Higher Powers.
Please don't hit me!


p.s. the reason I er on the side of caution is I'm terrified of coming back and finding i'm banned. This is the only site I can use my brain in.

 

Tell me about it. I just tried reading Harry/Gabrielle fic where he falls for her at the age of 6!!! And I don't mean 'be my friend' stuff, no sir, it's a 6 year old Harry whose biggest wish is to settle down and have kids with his newfound soulmate!!!

I mean really, have these people even SEEN a 6 year old!? They are bunch of tiny, hyper, anoying brats who are constantly asking neverending stream of stupid questions in their squeeky little voices. They are DEFINITELY NOT cool powerful Cassanovas who are chasing chicks and looking forwards to marriage with the authoresses' alter-ego/Marry Sue/other cute emo boy of her choosing. GOT IT!?

 

I think the idea behind Harry getting married is that they grow up faster in the Wizarding world, never mind that as a cultures life average life span increase so does the age of majority. If they died at forty I could see marriage at sixteen but death at 110? No wonder they treat them like kids until they're thirty-five. Of course that doesn't stop all the romancers from marrying Harry to Ginny/Hermione/random OC by the end of his sixth year. Sometimes they don't even bother using a contract of a betroval or soulmate bull. They just fall madly in love inside a week.

 

Yeah well I just don't think anyone has the emotional maturity for marriage at 17. Also saying the life span is different don't work.
If they're gonna live till they're fucking 100yrs means they should be married later.
Another thing I fucking hate is the fics where they have Harry mature faster.
It's pure fan girl/boy smut in most cases, partly because they want to get him doing their fantasies quicker.
I mean I read one fic where they actually described his genitals.
I mean I can except a fic that has him mature due to magic.
But for god's sake, stop talking about his balls and get him fucking using 'em.
I don't want to read about him fucking counting his pubes, I want him to fucking AK someone.

I don't mind smut in it's place, or if it's a small proportion of the fic.
As a woman I don't want to read about no hairy non-functional testicles thank you.

Er, I think I'm ranted out. I also don't want to push my luck.

 

Cliches in general don't bother me to much. Hell, I use them. If you use one, be prepared to do it well breathe some new life into it, or put your own twist on it. Considering someone was just ranting about #12 turning into a refugee center or making Harry get married, both of which are occuring in my story. Don't let the rants disuade you against using a cliche, just do it well.

If you make him get married, for the love of all that's holy or unholy don't make it sudden uber happiness. Even newlyweds have spats.

Let's see what irks me today.
1) "But Hermione told me you got over me last year." Yes I do occasionally read a H/G fic and that has to be one of the most tired lines in all of fanfiction.

2) Soulmates crap gah.

3) Suddenly good Bellatrix.

 

Harry was brought up differently than most people though. He was neglected and forced to do work at a very young age. I can understand when writers have him mature quickly it's very possible. I mean after hearing the prophecy he pretty much has no choice but to grow up. I know if I heard it I would've stopped doing all the teenager things and train my ass off.

What fic is this? Link?

 

God Litha, you got a lot of repressed tension there...lol...your signature is a reflection of that.

Give it all out, keep 'em, flowing.

Another cliche:

Harry turns Dumbledore hating because he hid the fact of a vault from him.

woopti-shit.

What the hell was he going to do with it anyways?

Maybe, just maybe Dumbledore wanted to give it to him for his 17th birthday, when he becomes a mature adult and is able to do things other than go "Dumblefuck, you goatfucker!"

Another is Dumbledore hiding properties from Harry.

ooooOOOoooo

What were going to do with them?

If he told you at 11, you'd have a big head.

"I Have A HUGE CASTLE! In your face Malfoy!"

Besides, were you going to live with it?

Get raised by fucking house elves until you were old enough to go to Hogwarts?

"Hello, I is Harry Potter. Can Harry help young sir?"


Having Albus Dumbledore managing your properties should be a fucking honor.

Be happy he didn't leave it to some greedy goblin.

 

Agree about that. I notice that most of the clishes and overused plot twists don't bother me much IF they are developed correctly, instead of just put in half-arsedly as a filler material.

Wanna use a snake? Fine. Just don't say 'Harry got a snake' and end it at that. Develop the snake's character, history and find it a place in the story. Use it in every subplot and situation, don't just forget about it once the shopping trip is over. Snake that is there just to look cool is NOT a good usage of this clishe.

EDIT:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2944807/1/

Harry is not BWL twist, he travels to France, finds a soulmate at the age of 6 and attends Beauxaton or whatever. Goes to Hogwarts to Triwizard tournamenr, where loads of Lily-infused angst awaits... blah.