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Imperator Challenge #4 The St. Brutus Dweller

Discussion in 'Challenges' started by Subcomandante_Taco, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Subcomandante_Taco

    Subcomandante_Taco Seventh Year

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    Challenge #4

    Summary: What if Harry Potter had incredibly powerful fits of accidental magic which he cannot control and it happens whenever he is in danger? What happens if one day, the entire neighborhood is accidentally killed by Harry's magic? The Minister of Magic, along with Dumbledore, fears that the boy has gone dark and is a danger to others, so they never send him a letter to Hogwarts nor even reveal magic. INstead, they sent him off to another institution made for boys like him- St. Brutus Secure Center for Incurably Criminal Boys. They kept it secret to themselvse, swearing that nobody would ever now about Harry Potter's actions- they would make up a story saying that the Boy-Who-Lived died in a neighborhood fire- which is untrue of course.

    After Dumbledore binded his magic, which means that he can't use magic with a wand and accidental magic will be much weaker, and he was sent to the school.

    Fast forward six years later, the Ministry of Magic and the Order are at the threshold of defeat. Lord Voldemort has almost won, and Dumbledore now realizes his foolish mistake. He goes out to get Harry Potter and allow him to rejoin the Wizarding verse.

    The Headmaster goes to the Center to bring back Harry, but to his great surprise, the Boy-Who-Lived was anything but he expected. Fierce, cunning, cynical and intelligent, Harry was hardened by his years in the Center and he was definitely not prepared to risk his life to fight Voldemort.

    When told about his duty as the Boy-Who-Lived, Harry said he didn't care. After all, the Wizarding world had abandoned him, and now he didn't really give a shit about them.

    So reluctantly, Dumbledore kidnaps the boy, traps him inside Grimmaulds Place, and makes him learn magic. He removes the binds, and starts to train the boy to fight against Voldemort. Of course first, the Headmaster would need to convince Harry that he needed to fight. And that would be very difficult.

    Challenge-
    Harry is cynical, intelligent, cunning and strong after years in St. Brutus.
    Pairings are not reccommended, but if you want to, it can be anything but Slash.

    Harry is a VERY powerful wizard but he cannot control his accidental magic, and for that reason, he ended up obliterating the entire neighborhood including the Dursley's in a fit of accidental magic.

    Dumbledore is manipulative- he wants to make Harry fight against Voldemort, despite how much Harry doesn't want to or even care about the wizarding world.

    Harry despises the MoM for leaving him in St. Brutus, but he hates Dumbledore even more.
     
  2. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    So you're basically setting up for Badass!Rebel!Harry who hates everyone, will swear constantly at everyone and will rebel over the smallest things.

    Whats he going to do to Voldemort? Shank him to death? Inject him with a bad dose of drugs? Kill him by spraying him in the eyes with spray paint?

    Honestly, wtf is the point of this challenge? Whats the plot? Whats the hook?
     
  3. Subcomandante_Taco

    Subcomandante_Taco Seventh Year

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    Harry is forced to train in magic in order to fight against Voldemort. So why don't you read the goddamn challenge before making stupid comments?
     
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  4. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Right, so the plot is to have loads of angsting!rebel!Harry complaining about Dumbledore, ranting about the Ministry and making life difficult for everyone else involved. That would make a thoroughly interesting fic I'm sure.

    /sarcasm
     
  5. Subcomandante_Taco

    Subcomandante_Taco Seventh Year

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    Pretty much, though Harry won't be the type of person who'll just sit there taking everything. He'll be trying to escape from Dumbledore, and learn magic by himself without interferance from anyone else.

    I guess I should've clarified that- but even than, how will he be making life more difficult for everytone else involved? They were the ones who kidnapped him, tried to train him in magic so he could someday fight a battle that he doesn't give a damn about.

    I've yet to see any story that has Harry going to St. Brutus where he is forced to be trained in magic, and fight Voldemort even if he doesn't want to.
     
  6. Gabrinth

    Gabrinth Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    I'm sorry to say, but I'm feeling the same thing as Mordecai, man. I'm seeing the same Harry that grew up alone in Miami wearing two guns, six daggers, and a katana and who has sex with hookers at twelve and everyone 'down at the gym' knows him and respects him for being 'hard'.

    Harry becomes cynical and sly... okay? But he knows no magic at all and the whole story is going to be about him training... or him rebelling. Neither make a good fic.

    And what is the goal? Harry defeats Voldemort with his ninja weapons of doom while making 'manipulative Dumbledore' look like an idiot with his poorly written suave and witty retorts? And then he goes on to scream 'Fuck you, dogs!' to the Ministry and leaves all calm and sexy like to go and have sex with loads of 'hot bitches'?

    Perhaps that wasn't how it was intended but that's all I could see coming out of it.

    Here's the normal list of attributes of this kind of fic:

    1. Super rebel knife fighting abilities.
    2. Growing up alone into a 'hard core' dude.
    3. Manipulative adult who 'doesn't understand' Harry's feelings and wants to make him do something he doesn't want to do.
    4. Lots of 'fuck you's, knives, guns, sex, rebellion, and badly written witty comments.

    The most likely answer to this challenge? ^That^ bull shit that no one but a twelve year old wants to read once they get past their first few months of reading fanfiction and raising their IQ.
     
  7. Subcomandante_Taco

    Subcomandante_Taco Seventh Year

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    Heh, well I guess this came out a lot better in my head than it actually does written in story form. :p
     
  8. Paravon

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    I don't know, with some changes, it wouldn't be too bad.

    Have him sent to Hogwarts, where Dumbledore tries to connect him to the wizards he wants him to save. And at an earlier year.

    In St. Brutus, without Riddle's power complex and psychosis, Harry could have a mania for having as much control over his situation as possible, making it as comfortable as he could. Above all, someone who uses his mind, as he couldn't compete physically with other children.

    Harry could've taken hold, like Tom Riddle did. Using cunning, and his small amount of usable magic to hold a small bit of sway over people's emotions regarding him, making him better treated than the others there. (They are the hopless cases.)

    And when he gets to Hogwarts, he would try the same thing, but he'd have been a big fish in a small pond, and too used to dealing with over-aggressive criminals and suspicious officers.

    (I would do it so that he isn't ambitious - the main trait of Slytherin - until later. Putting him in Slytherin would simply focus Dumbledore on him too much.)

    He tries to adapt, learn about the new world and everything in it to take power over his situation, and gradually form his own ambitions.
     
  9. Lord Apophis

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    I like Silver Peas version much better...
     
  10. Ascania

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    You forgot the tattoos
     
  11. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Oh yes, can't forget the tattoos, which will "teh coolness" and Mrs Weasley will yell at him for having them, he'll get all angsty about it, Hermione will yell at him for having them, he'll get all angsty about it, Ginny will try to rape him because she loves the tattoo's, he'll fuck her then wave the fact in everyones faces, Ron'll be jealous because he has tattoo's, Harry will wave the fact in his face, Ron'll be jealous because Harry'll have had sex with someone, Harry'll wave the fact in his face, Ron'll try to curse Harry for fucking his little sister, Harry will stab/shoot Ron to death then make a pithy comment about how Magic can never beat a knife/gun despite logic to contrary.
     
  12. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    I don't see why a St. Brutus Dweller would want to get a tattoo. Doesn't that cost money that Harry most likely won't have? And if he does get money, he'd probably spend it on weapons, and once he gets a full set, he'll buy better ones. Priorities.
     
  13. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Hmm...

    Well, the "Harry goes to St. Brutus" sounds interesting to me, it's original and never been done before, to my knowledge.

    However, it's the magical side of things that I don't really like.

    Binding people's magic? Massive plot holes begin to occur as soon as this becomes possible.

    Turning to Harry to save them from Voldemort? Dumbledore makes it very clear in canon that he sets no store by the prophesy: the only reason why things turned out as they did was because Voldemort believed it.

    Rebel!Angry!Harry and IDon'tGiveAShitAboutYou!Dumbledore are both tired and done to death in fanfiction. In fact, I think they're pretty much my pet hate, even more so than Merlin, magical trunks and Griphook.
     
  14. LogrusMage

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    Everyone seems to expect challenges to come with a plot...

    Challenges are not fic plans; they are plot bunnies people want to give away. They shouldn't have any plot. The plot should be written by the author.

    Plot
    Characters
    Setting/IDeas

    This is the order of importance. Challenges only give you the setting/idea, and a bit of character, the rest is up to the challenged.

    Edit: A smart, St. Brutus Harry could be interesting. He'd have to be convinced to learn magic, and then fucking learn it. This is pretty much a basic intro to an independent Harry fic. ANY independent fic could be utterly fucked up if done wrong and awesome if done right. Watch:

    Harry goes rogue, leaving the Dursleys but somehow tricking the order to thinking he's still there. Goes off and finds a book that helps him become more powerful. Sets up camp and start training for the fight ahead.

    Fucking horrible, right? But how many fics use this exact premise, and make it awesome? IP82 sure did.

    Harry has a vision and forces himself to travel to someones home that is under attack. He saves the person, and the experience mkes him want to start being independent and powerful, and leave the thumb of Dumbledore.

    Once again, cliched as hell. JBern made it awesome.

    Harry travels to an alternate dimension where he was evil but his parents lived and had another daughter.

    Super cliches here, but A Stranger in an Unholy Land is one of my favorite fics of all time.

    If you expect the plot on a platter in a challenge, you're not getting a challenge, you're getting a fic.
     
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  15. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Now you see, theres a plot bunny, and then theres a challenge. They are separate things. A plot bunny is an idea of what could start off a fic, or could happen during a fic. A challenge is the basis to write an entire fic from. And besides, I never said that I was expecting to OP to put up a plot for the fic in this thread, I was just pointing out what the plot would be.
     
  16. LogrusMage

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    True enough. I apologize for kind of... blowing up I guess.
     
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