1. DLP Flash Christmas Competition + Writing Marathon 2024!

    Competition topic: Magical New Year!

    Marathon goal? Crank out words!

    Check the marathon thread or competition thread for details.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Hi there, Guest

    Only registered users can really experience what DLP has to offer. Many forums are only accessible if you have an account. Why don't you register?
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Introducing for your Perusing Pleasure

    New Thread Thursday
    +
    Shit Post Sunday

    READ ME
    Dismiss Notice

Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

Not open for further replies.
  1. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    494
    Location:
    Germany occupied Greece
    High Score:
    4495+2362
    I fucking hate it that Naruto just gets smacked around by the Raikage. Seriously.

    And also, Naruto in general reminds me of Pokemon. For every new ability he learns he uses that one all the time and forgets whatever he was using up till now.
     
  2. Howdy

    Howdy Dark Lord

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,865
    Location:
    The Playhouse
    To be fair Naruto isn't lifting a finger against the Raikage - just trying to sneak by.
     
  3. Qilin

    Qilin Fourth Year

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Location:
    Sarah Palin's backyard, possibly with a shotgun.
    Sure, but I can see some clones coming in handy here either way. Provided they all look the same.
     
  4. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Messages:
    716
    High Score:
    4,492
    Can't do that in his current state without running out of juice and risking death all the quicker for it, IIRC. Ignore this if you were just saying that as a general observation and not more as a question for why it isn't being done.
     
  5. Synchro

    Synchro High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Messages:
    554
    Location:
    Texas
    This. I don't think even the Raikage's power would cut it against Naruto if Naruto started beating the shit out of the old fellow. The Raikage doesn't seem to be pulling his punches and Naruto's taking the hits and not showing any damage for it at all.

    I'm liking the A-B/Minato back story being shown here. And it looks like B and Naruto are similar in more than their cavalier attitudes and complete lack of consideration for planning. That 'precious persons' and 'being accepted' shtick became a kind of theme with Gaara and Naruto and now B's success with controlling the Hachibi is shown to have similar reasons.
     
  6. The Berkeley Hunt

    The Berkeley Hunt Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Messages:
    1,081
    Location:
    The Nevernever
    Apart from the story of this segment, which I think personally is adding a little much needed emotion to a so far stale war, I really liked the character designs of the flashback scenes. Young A and B looked exceptionally boss, as did the lightning shinobi in general, and of course Minato mixing it up.
     
  7. Qilin

    Qilin Fourth Year

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Location:
    Sarah Palin's backyard, possibly with a shotgun.
    Lol, I forgot about that. Reading Republic21's comment jolted me into thinking about past moves that were his signature and what would be pretty useful in this situation.

    I'll have a laugh though if the fight continues, beyond talking and he pulls out a few anyway. I should probably reread some of the older chapters; a few pages a week and I lose some of the details about what happened before.
     
  8. Starwind

    Starwind Headmaster

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,075
    I would've liked to see Sage mode Naruto vs Raikage rather than the Nine-tails mode, but we don't always get what we want.

    Tsunade switching sides again, the clip with Naruto saying "I won't die till I become Hokage" was expected...

    Is it wrong that the Killer Bee/Raikage brother love stuff reminds me of Lee/Gai?
     
  9. Inert

    Inert Headmaster

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2010
    Messages:
    1,029
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Completely expected. Tsunade's been Naruto's bitch since part one. Anyone who thought she would do otherwise is delusional. I'm actually hoping that the Raikage stands his fucking ground on this one, rather than caving to his brother, Naruto, and now Tsunade. He's always been written as a logical man who sees the big picture of things, not to mention a guy with the attitude that a leader of a shinobi village would probably have; jaded and pretty unforgiving (see first Naruto/Raikage interaction). It'd be seriously undermining his character to have him cave here, thanks to a little emotional chatting.

    Yes, extremely wrong.
     
  10. Howdy

    Howdy Dark Lord

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,865
    Location:
    The Playhouse
    Erm, did you read the last chapter? Bee just threw in Raikage's face the fact that his decisions regarding Bee have been all wrong ever since he took the position of Raikage. Jinchuuriki aren't trump cards meant to sit on their asses waiting to launch chakra bombs - they're ninja with a little extra oomph.

    Treating them otherwise is dehumanizing, and in the case of Bee and Naruto who are legit ninja before they are jinchuuriki, it's a waste of their abilities.
     
  11. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    494
    Location:
    Germany occupied Greece
    High Score:
    4495+2362
    Yeah no. Raikage has been spouting bullshit since their whole encounter, all four know that. If Raikage stays on character (see; logical) he'll realize what he's doing (favoring Bee over Naruto) is against the whole "objective view" he's trying to promote, and that hidding their big guns is arguably stupid.
     
  12. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage ~ Prestige ~

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2009
    Messages:
    1,551
    Location:
    Department of Post-Mortem Communications
    High Score:
    2,101
    To be fair, I thought the Raikage used that as an excuse to keep his "brother" safe out of harm, seeing that he couldn't be with him on missions anymore and have his back.
     
  13. nath1607

    nath1607 Groundskeeper

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    352
    Location:
    Wales, UK
    Only a little extra oomph? Are you kidding me? At will these people can turn into full fledged bijuu and potentially rip apart an entire village if they aren't stopped. Its more than a little.

    Isn't that sort of the smart thing to do never the less, we have been shown it is all about the future generation so it shouldn't be that surprising that they keep some of their strongest ninjas in their villages constantly. I also doubt that you could effectivly use your jinchuriki vs another village without the threat of that same one doing the same back. With the exception of Orochimarus vendetta it seems that the majority of the fighting stayed away from the actual villages with the exception of assassinations.
     
  14. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
    Most of the S-class ninja we've seen can do the same. It's not a big deal.
     
  15. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,891
    Location:
    I lived in my mind but I lost my key.
    Most of the S-Class ninja we have seen? The only S-class Ninja we have seen capable of doing this as easily as a bijuu is Nagato. And he is even more capable than the bijuu since it takes one shot for him. It would take mutliple tailed beast bombs to equal Nagato's technique, but that is Nagato who is an exceptional S-class ninja.

    Sure given enough time most of the S-class ninja could probably tear apart an undefended village. The number of S-class ninja who could take down a defended village alone? I count three; Nagato, Naruto, and Bee.
     
  16. Murton

    Murton DJ OEM DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,270
    Location:
    Newcastle, NSW, Australia
    Don't forget Naruto also has the toad summon, he can summon some pretty boss toads, combine that with nine tails modes and sage modes and he could pretty much wipe a couple of villages off the map.

    Itachi possibly could if his Amaterasu spread and burned an entire village down. On that note so could Sasuke.

    Might've also been possible for Deidara to also take out a village.
     
  17. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,891
    Location:
    I lived in my mind but I lost my key.
    I hadn't thought of the toads, but you have a point. If Itachi and Sasuke could spread the Amaterasu widely enough it would be possible.

    But it would still be difficult even for the Uchihas, Bee, and Naruto. If all it took was an extremely powerful ninja there wouldn't be any villages left. They would likely all have been destroyed in the first 3 ninja wars.

    Nagato could do it fairly easily, but he was the exception. The others would need time to accomplish the kind of destruction Nagato can do in seconds and hope some ninja defending his home doesn't get off a lucky shot.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2011
  18. Murton

    Murton DJ OEM DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,270
    Location:
    Newcastle, NSW, Australia
    The thing with Nagato is that he had massive attacking and diversion tactics he was able to use. He could gather intel whilst attacking their front lines, defending himself, doing sabotage, attacking the villages most powerful ninja, wiping out the peons with summons until he could pretty much devastate the village.

    Because of the paths he was pretty much the ultimate one man army. Apart from Zetsu lulz. On that note, Zetsu might be able to take out an entire village with his clones.

    Most of the single ninja able to take out entire villages as I see it have either massive AoE moves, moves unable to be defended against on such a scale once they have been launched. Shit like bijuu bombs and Deidara's ultimate bomb would just level anything within the blast areas.
     
  19. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage ~ Prestige ~

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2009
    Messages:
    1,551
    Location:
    Department of Post-Mortem Communications
    High Score:
    2,101
    Kisame can flood a village,
    Sasori can overrun it with poisonous puppets,
    Deidara can blow it up,
    Orochimaru has his huge summons and/or edo tensei with which he can summon someone who can destroy the village (like Shodai),
    Kakuzu has huge elemental attacks that at the very least can destroy huge parts of a village,
    Itachi's amaterasu might take some time but seeing that one either needs to be a seal master of Jiraya's caliber or have an MS themselves to deal with the flames it will destroy a village,
    Pain, we have seen
    Konan has her paper tags that can do massive damage
    all the jinchuruki
    Jiraya and Tsunade with their summons

    most of them really do have huge attacks for that kind of thing.
     
  20. nath1607

    nath1607 Groundskeeper

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    352
    Location:
    Wales, UK
    You seem to be forgetting that these villages have ninjas of their own....

    I also doubt summons will play that big apart considering Bunta was owned by the Ichibi and we have seen the lesser bijuu defeated solely by ninja previously, not to mention the villages will probably have their own defending summons.

    There is also the matter of actually getting into range, Konoha had a massive sensing shield constantly maintained so the other villages likely have ways of detecting enemys unique to them. For me, like Murton, leaves the massive AOE attacks and sheer numbers combined with skill to defend, attack, harass the stronger ninjas while preparing to destroy it. The only ones I see capable are Naruto, Bee, Nagato, the Tschuikage and possibly Deidara. The problem is I don't see some of these actually surviving the fight after destroying the village.
     
Loading...
Not open for further replies.