Rasengan Planet looks like a drill or something. Basically grinds the crap outta the middle while the outside form the hole.

From what I see, this is how most of the rasengan techs work:

Regular: Just a grinding attack.

Serial: 2-shot version

Odama: Bigger grind.

Fuuton: Minor cutting + insane Grinding radius

Shuriken: Cellular level cuts and throwable with huge blast range

Mini: Small AOE attack

Planet: Precision drilling with piercing shock wave effect


To me, all of the rasengans so far have different affects in fights. Don't see the problem with it.

 

The problem is that I have seen fanfiction with much better versions of the Rasengan and went all like "Damn, that's ridiculous"
Now Kishi makes me ashamed of Naruto :facepalm

 

There comes a point when there are two many variations to one move. Kishi has attained this point.

 

Sage Mode was way better than this Kyuubi chakra cloak crap and its accompanying assortment of stupid Rasengan variations. In Sage Mode, Naruto looked badass and cool. In this new form, he doesn't even really look like Naruto. He should have learned some new skills by means of actual training, instead of a dumb power-up. He still has zero defence against the Sharingan, especially Madara's if not also Sasuke's. Basically, Naruto is a sub-par ninja who leeches off the Kyuubi to solve his problems and is genetically inferior to Sasuke in every way that counts. If he didn't have a demon sealed in him, he'd be okay in a fight thanks to Rasengan and Sage Mode, but Sasuke would stomp him into the ground with ease. I don't like this. He should have progressed beyond Sasuke by now in terms of his own abilities and power, since he is the protagonist of the series. But instead, he's still an idiot and still reliant on the fox's chakra to accomplish anything remotely impressive. I know the argument about the fox being a tool just like the Sharingan, but that's nonsense. The Sharingan is genetic, a fundamental part of what an Uchiha is, whereas the fox is an entirely separate entity from Naruto, who keeps leeching off it just to get by. Without it, he would lose almost everytime. Lame hero.

 

You seem to forget, every single impressive move of Naruto's relies on the incredible chakra reserves gifted to him by the Fox. That includes Shadow Clones, the Rasengan and ... that's about it.
Without the fox he would have failed the academy for the fourth and final time, before abandoning his ninja dream and moving on to be a general failure in life.

 

Without the Fox he probably wouldn't have a problem with finishing the academy in the first place (assuming that it was only Bunshin that was stopping him from graduating on his third time).

 

He was bad at everything, but still passable I believe, but the Clone Jutsu was what made him fail, at least that's the impression I got.

An idiot is still an idiot, no matter what changes are done to him.

Enjoy your rant? What kind of argumant about it being a tool? Sounds like someone reads way to much fanfiction to confuse it with canon... Anyways, incase you forget. Naruto = Idiot, Sasuke = Genius, so Sasuke is of course going to always be ahead of him, and Naruto struggling to catch up but managing to because of these insane powerups. His own abilities and power? I didn't know that were you got something mattered, as if that was the case, wouldn't Sasuke stealing Itachi's power through his eyes be the same thing? Either way, I don't want to see another rant from you so I've added you to my ignore list like Luckylee.

 

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1. As an Uzumaki, Naruto has incredible chakra reserves and a pedigree comparable to many clan heirs.
2. Without the Fox, Naruto's chakra control problems are drastically limited, perhaps non-existent.
3. Without the fox and depending on the reasons for that, he's the son of the Yondaime Hokage. Like it or not, he's graduating the fucking Academy.
4. You fail three times, you flunk the Academy. Not four.
5. People need to stop bagging on Naruto and underestimating his abilities and drive. It was stale around the time of the Pein Arc, and it's stale now. He's been a general boss throughout the entire manga. Respect or just stop reading if you're going to complain about everything about him.
6.Whine all you want about him knowing two moves + variations, but that's the staple of the entire shinobi world, minus a few jutsu-freaks and blood-line users. The fact that he just wtfpawned the strongest Tsuchikage in history and then launched an attack on the Third Raikage like it was nothing should clue you into the fact that such complaints are meaningless.

 

The butthurt is strong in you, Hash. I never said I don't think Naruto is boss. Hell, he and Itachi are the only reasons I'm still reading this after Jiraiya died.

But let's face it, without the fox he'd make an average Ninja at best. We can theorize all day about how differences in his past would change his personality, ideals, attention span or whatever (hence fanfiction). However, the fact remains that if Naruto was exactly as he is in canon, but without the fox, he would either probably be killed really early on in one of the various situations where the fox has saved him, or lead a very unimpressive Ninja career.
Because when we look at it from another point of view, acting the protagonist when you really aren't is a great way to get yourself killed. Thankfully for canon Naruto, he is the protagonist. Fox-less Naruto however, is fair game.


Edit@Evan: Wow, did you just jump out of fanfiction cliches?

 

It would depend on what you mean by "fox not there".

Did it not attack? Then Minato and Kushina are still alive, kicking ass, and most liking teaching their son some tricks if Naruto still wants to be a ninja.

Sealed in someone else? It'd break into whether people knew Naruto is the 4ths son or not. Yes? Most likely closely guarded with at least Jounin for training to bring out his full potential and personal protection.

No? He'd likely be still be one of the "geniuses" of the class due to much higher pedigree, better focus, better control, and better help.

 

Sorry to flip out on you bro, but I've been reading similar shit from a lot of places and it's been building. :facepalm

No he wouldn't. He'd have Uzumaki chakra and longevity plus his original characteristics of hard-work and stubborness, without any chakra-control problems. He'd accomplish the Bunshin and graduate, and from there on it's open territory that would depend on the circumstances and the writing.

Does Naruto know anything about his heritage? Because that changes the answer of whether or not he'd be "average" (more likely a Sakura than anything truly average) and whether or not he'd get impressively skilled in such a short period of time as he was in canon.

 

The possibilities are endless. As we well know, every single divergence has effects, so to theorize is not only ineffective, it's also pointless.

I can understand that under special circumstances, Naruto could flourish. What I'm saying is, so can everyone. It's just that, under normal circumstances, Naruto is one of those people that usually get stepped on by others and need a specific chain of events to get to a certain point where they can grow better.
To end this, let's just say, to each his own.

 

Have to agree that it's hard to say what Naruto would turn out like without the Fox; being the nine-tails jinchuriki has had such a huge effect on pretty much every aspect of his life that there's no way to know what he would turn out like if he had never been the host. It literally changes every single formative moment of his life (not to mention the possibility that he would still have one or both parents).

 

Anyone else pretty wowed by the fact that the Naruto that's schooling dead Kage is a shadow clone?

And please keep your tired "Naruto is a loser" tirades to yourself. If you bothered to read the manga you'd know this isn't the case.

 

Without Kyuubi, Sage mode = endless.

 

I guess I'm the only one liking all these new rasengan variations. Bawselike imo.

Also, Mizukage is hilarious. Moar of him plz.

 

Pretty happy that Sasuke's new eyes were totally different than all the fanon drawings, oh and they look so badass.

 

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/30146172/1

New Chapter is up.

 

New chapter up.

Decent chapter. Finally getting to see the new version of the Rasengan in action, and Chidori/Raikiri gets a bit more respect now.

 

I didn't get why the Raikage was able to shrug off the Rasenshuriken so easily. I thought that the Rasenshuriken is an attack that dismantles the target at a cellular level, and isn't really about the physical damage (though it can cause a lot of that too). Why was the Raikage able to brush something like that off without even the the Edo Tensei kicking in to restore him? Does that lightning chakra cloak make it so that cellular damage can't happen?

In any case, good chapter I thought. Leads up nicely to the unveiling of Naruto's Bijuu Bomb. Should be a blast...