This battle has a potential to be pretty epic.

There are people knowing Hiraishin? It will definitely be overused in fanfiction from now on.

I think that regrowing Raikage's hand by Tsunade makes sense considering everything else that we saw in this manga and the fact that she is suppose to be one of the best Medical-nin ever (if not the best). But I'm worried that she used her Creation Rebirth already. Every since Jiraiya died and Oro was sealed, I'm expecting that she will meet a similar fate before the manga ends.

 

I reckon this fight will be awesome, but Tsunade (and possibly other Kages) will kick the bucket soon. Naruto won't be able to step up as the last hope and hero of the shinobi nations until all the Kages have tried and failed to beat the enemy.

The Hiraishin thing was alright, I suppose. Needing three people to perform it is quite a severe limitation.

I think my wish is about to come true and we'll see Madara let loose with awesome fire techniques, based on what Tsunade said about him.

 

I'm thinking Tsunade's death would be the most symbolic death - being the last Senju for one reason - but like mentioned above with Orochimaru/Jiraiya being dead, I was expecting her to die in the Pain invasion to be honest.

I think if she died. Naruto would get the push he needed and just rampage Madara... Although it would be awesome if Itachi showed up and only Naruto knew he was a good guy.

Edit: Who thinks Tsunade was talking about Naruto in this?

"We'll save the Flying Thunder God Technique for him."

Or she was just saying use it against Madara?

 

I assumed she meant Tobi. His main fighting style is space-time jutsu.

 

I assumed she was referring to Naruto, as in he's the other only one who can do it alone and effectively, and if I recall correctly, he was the one on panel when the sentence was spoken, though I might be wrong.

 

How did they end up saving it for "him", whoever that is? They used it anyway.

In any case, epic fight is on the cards. Hard though it might be to believe, I doubt edo!Madara's going to lose, even 5-on-1 against the Kages (its 5-on-2, atm).

 

Huh? I thought they used a Kumo teleportation technique and Shikaku suggested using the Hiraishin.

 

Having three nobodies know the FTG technique was a humongous asspull from the author. It results in so many plotholes that its almost hilarious.

1)Oh no! Orochimaru has trapped the hokage in a barrier we cannot penetrate. Its too bad do no one knows how to teleport help into the barrier and save the hokage.

2)Naruto is being hunted, its too bad we cannot mark him with an FTG seal so that in the event he is actually captured, a rescue team can be sent wherever he is. (applies to Bee aswell)

3)Oh no, a client lied and a genin team has been given a mission thats far too dangerous. If only there was a way for Konoha to instantly teleport someone to help.

4)Naruto needs to be hidden in an island where no one can find him. Its a long journey through the sea. It really is a shame that there is no way of instantly teleporting to the island. (Bee could have made the seal)

5)etc etc etc etc

And thats ignoring the other benefits of teleportation. If three random fodders can lean it, then anyone could. Why is anyone walking anywhere? Just send shinobi to place the seal in every village/town and build a "teleport station" in Konoha where people can be instantly transported into any other village instantly. The benefits from commerce alone would be invaluable if goods could be transported to and from Konoha instantly.

And ofcourse the fact that its these three nobodies who know the technique is even more idiotic. Kakashi, Minatos student apparently does not know it. And neither does Jiraiya, the seal master. And whether you like it or not, if these guys can do it then rationally it should have been taught to Naruto aswell.

Bah!

 

Yeah, let's just wait until we get a little more information about that move, before we start jumping to conclusions about how Kishi fucked up. We still don't really know how it works and there are plenty of ways this could be explained.

 

All true. It's a gigantic asspull and a bit annoying. But if Kishimoto uses it as an excuse to show more flashbacks about the Yondaime and his awesomeness, I'll be cool with it. I think Kishi also realised he'd shot himself in the foot by having Jiraiya die before he could teach Naruto some fuuinjutsu, so that one day Naruto could learn Hiraishin. So this is his solution. It's annoying, but oh well...

 

We really, really don't know much about the technique right now, other than two major things:

1) Other than Minato, only those three can use it. Even then, they can't use it alone. All three are required to use it.
2) It requires a seal to use.

This last part is just conjecture, but they may not be able to use it often. That sad, it does seem like it's little more than something Kishi added in so Naruto can learn to use it, honestly.

 

I swear I'm done with this manga if Naruto learns Flying Thunder God only to use it with three shadow clones standing around him in a circle holding hands. And how old would Genma and the throwaways have been when the Yondaime was Hokage?

 

Yeah, the only way Naruto learning it would really be okay with me is if he can do it without help (even if it is shadow clone help.)

 

I'd keep reading in that case just for the lulz. They must have been pretty young - probably younger than Kakashi. At least those characters will probably get their backgrounds fleshed out now and we'll learn more about the Yondaime, who is pretty much the cool version of Naruto.

Edit: Couldn't Madara just keep pulling asteroids down on these clowns? Such a stupidly overpowered and physically impossible technique. *Sigh*

 

We don't really know how old Minato was when he died, but I think that assuming he was in his early to mid-twenties wouldn't be too far off the mark. Try to remember that Naruto isn't even seventeen yet, so Minato could be as young as 40 if he'd survived. Kakashi is 30 now, and he wasn't allowed to participate in the Kyuubi attack.

Is it so hard to believe that these guys could be mid to late 30s?

Edit:

Just read the chapter again, and I'm wondering if the flashback to Oonoki and Madara is implying that Madara started one of the ninja wars by lying about Hashirama's stance on Konoha/Iwa relations?

Also, I used to think we'd seen all that Tsunade was really capable of on the battle ability front, but her comments make me wonder what new stuff she'll pull out in this confrontation. Super strength and medical ninjutsu is all we've seen, but none of these Kage have a water affinity and she's implying that she'll be needed to combat Madara's fire techniques. Is water-attuned!Tsunade going to show her face here? Would make sense since both her grandfather and great uncle had strong water attunements as well.

 

About Minato age, I read somewhere that he was 28, when he died. It can be true (Mikoto Uchiha, Kushina's friend was also 28, when she give birth to Sasuke), but it's probably some fan assumption.


Anybody else think that there are some inaccuracies with Edo? We all know that Madara and Hashirama were pretty much even in terms of skills, power etc. Resurected Madara is pretty tough (we seen his fire attacks, his ems and rinnegan, his meteorites etc.), shouldn't resurrected First be pretty much also to tough for single Kage? Yet Third takes on his, his brother and Orochimaru and comes out on top. So Hiruzen is the best motherfu**er in series (we are know he is bad ass ), or Kishi fucked up and created plot hole, or Kabuto is just better than Orochimaru.

 

Um, Howdy. The mizukage does have a water affinity. That was why she was teleported to them.

Am I the only one who wants to see Kimimaro and the mist swordsmen again? There were still 3 left along with Kimimaro a couple of chapters ago.

And Kurufinwe, kabuto has said that he has mastered the edo muchmore then either of the other two. This was mentioned about 5 pages ago, please read the thread before posting something others have already posted.

 

No, you're right. She has a fire/earth/water affinity. But that doesn't mean that Tsunade won't show us something new. Besides, it seems like the Mizukage likes to use her affinity combinations. I suppose we'll see what happens.

 

According to Narutopedia (which got its info from the databooks I presume).

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Genma_Shiranui = 29-30
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raidō_Namiashi = 31-32

Naruto was 12 when the series started, so if we assume that Minato taught the technique to those two just before his death, they would have learned it at ages 17 and 19. And odds are they learned it many years before Minato died, so they were basically children when they learned. Also, neither of them are full jounins even now, and odds are that when Minato was alive they were not even that highly ranked. Probably chuunins at best.

So basically, the idea that these guys are supposed to guard and protect Minato is just laughable. If anything they would be a hindrance to Minato since in case of ambush, he would have to stay to protect them rather than just instantly teleporting himself to safety.

That would make Onoki look pretty damn stupid. I mean Hashirama is the one in charge, and Madara gets enraged by the mere mention of his name. Not exacly normal behaviour for a messenger from Kohona. You would think Onoki would be suspicious about that and confirm things with Hashirama before starting a war.

The Mizukage (Mei) apparently has a water affinity. The translated manga apparently had a mistranslation. When Tsunade says they are saving FTG for "him", it actually means the Mizukage, who has water affinity.

 

Found a few excellent parodies that must be seen:

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